Will The AirTran Pilots' Windfall Be A Consideration?

[Tanker Clown]

This is so funny, Judge TankerClown weighs in . . . :laugh:

TC, the first thing that you hear when you contact a knowledgeable Trial Lawyer about anything to do with RLA (something you haven't worked under) is that you need to address your question specifically in terms of RLA law, using RLA attorneys. I doubt very much that your esteemed Judge Tankerclown presides over RLA cases, and probably qualified his comments thusly. Unless, of course, there is no Judge Tankerclown . . . .

Does Judge Tankerclown not know the difference between "counsel" and "council"?

The way this usually goes down is that the SWA side will pick a judge and the AT side will pick a judge (with the help of their councel). Then the 2 judges will get together and pick a third. Having a history with the RLA isn't necessarily something that is considered essential to being an arbitrator. They aren't illiterate, so they can always read it. Same goes with the Bond act.

Sorry smart guy, but I do know what I'm talking about here. It's because of ignorance (and lack of intelligence...or a criminal rap sheet) that's caused you to be attached to a glorified regional jet outfit.

 

[vixin]

Actually, Chief, your statement shows you really know very little about AirTran Pilots, our pay system, or much of anything else. It's no wonder you seem surprised when AirTran Pilots bristle at your comments.

We had many CA's making well into the mid $200's under our old 2001 contract. Some of our most junior CA's, who were on reserve were making the numbers you are spewing.

Maybe you ought to pick up the phone, and call some of your SWAPA guys for some real info, instead of just spewing your nonsense on FI.

Well said Dash. Most likely true. Well TY we have CA here making in excess of $400,000 and some FO's making in excess of $300,000. So what is your point? I think the above is about the normal flying pilots not the trip players. Again you arent bright enough to see. Sad really.

 

[Ty Webb]

I have seen pilots like Ty before. He is the guy who penciled whip his logbook where others put their fair time in paying their dues.

I guess that is why I paid my dues in the 90's by flying piston twins and corporate jets, instead of just paying one of the regionals $6K in PFT money to avoid paying my dues. :laugh:

He is the guy who would cross a line if he felt it was to his advantage. He is the guy that would sell his FO out to save his ticket. He is the guy who think it is fair to be senior to someone who has put five more years in the same job.

Yeah, that's why I have served as a Union volunteer for most of my 9 years here, so I could "cross the line". That's why I spent hundreds of hours of my own time (and a few thousand bucks, too) trying to help our Pilots who may have gotten in trouble with management over Union activities. . . . Because I don't care about my fellow pilot, and care only about money.

Man, do you have a lot of growing up to do. :erm:

 

[Kharma Police]

Well said Dash. Most likely true. Well TY we have CA here making in excess of $400,000 and some FO's making in excess of $300,000. So what is your point? I think the above is about the normal flying pilots not the trip players. Again you arent bright enough to see. Sad really.

I heard one cartel guy in PHX made, $1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.99 last year and he had twenty five days off every month!

 

[Dash Power]

Man, do you have a lot of growing up to do.

Ironically, that is a very immature response.

We all know you think highly of yourself Ty. You don't need to try and present your nameless resume on an anonymous forum. (I got a chuckle on your attempt though)

Generally people just don't change. So if you think it is fair to be senior to someone who has put in more time, you likely would think it fair with other issues that most all do not. Pretty basic psychology.

 

[Kharma Police]

Ironically, that is a very immature response.

We all know you think highly of yourself Ty. You don't need to try and present your nameless resume on an anonymous forum. (I got a chuckle on your attempt though)

Generally people just don't change. So if you think it is fair to be senior to someone who has put in more time, you likely would think it fair with other issues that most all do not. Pretty basic psychology.

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[Ty Webb]

Ironically, that is a very immature response.

We all know you think highly of yourself Ty. You don't need to try and present your nameless resume on an anonymous forum. (I got a chuckle on your attempt though)

Look, guy, I know you are brand-new on FI, but many of us long-timers here know each other. It's not nearly as anonymous as you think.

I don't try to analyze you, or tell you what you should expect from the merger or SLI, yet you seem to think that you should tell me what to settle for, so, yes, I would say you do have a lot of growing up to do.

 

[Ty Webb]

The way this usually goes down is that the SWA side will pick a judge and the AT side will pick a judge (with the help of their councel). Then the 2 judges will get together and pick a third.

Not true. You really have no idea what you are talking about, why do you keep commenting?

What happens is the two unions get together and decide the process. They can decide to have up to three. Then, the arbitrator(s) will be chosen from a list of RLA arbitrators via the agreed-upon process.

 

[Dash Power]

Ty,

You have got me all wrong. I am humbled by your impressive expertise and long time experience on anonymous forums. A skill I am sure your family is very proud of. I have only been a member since 2006. I am nothing to you. I will always respect your Flightinfo.com (I have not been here long enough to use the acronym "FI" yet) seniority.

No one is telling you anything! You are telling everyone else! And it is a foregone conclusion that no matter how this pans out, you are going to be disgruntled. But don't worry. You will not be alone. Although your future employer SWA (you are not on the list yet so you do not have the position to use that acronym) is a wonderful place to fly airplanes, we do have a small select group that you will belong to.

Don't worry Tyrone, you will have a special place.

 

[General Lee]

Face it PALS, SWA pilots on this board are nervous. They are already asking "what is in this for me?" Guess what? Probably not much. Same with the DL/NWA merger. The DL pilots got a fairly small raise and some stock, and that was about it for "extras." The NWA pilots got a larger raise overall. And, the Airtran guys just got a new contract, designed to be "closer" to the SWA contract, at least in the eyes of the future arbitrator(s). Just think though, your company will be stronger, and now you might be able to fly outside of the contiguous 48 states, along with ATL and DCA flights. HOW FANTASTIC FOR YOU!!!! PEACE OUT, BROS!


Bye Bye--General Lee