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There are several factors at play here. You have to answer each honestly and step back to look at the other side.

First, what is the status of the flow-thru with AA. Yes, it may be a ways off, but, I would prize something. Eagle has been static for sometime with the flow backs, but math tells me that they will catch up.

The absolute truth is NOBODY from management, ALPA, SAPA, or the crew lounge quarterbacks know what the outcome of the vote will be. The NMB is conducting the vote and only when it is concluded will the results be announced. There will not be any leaks to either side.

What happens after that is the big mystery. If you go on past practice, Skywest Inc will continue to pressure each pilot group into accepting less in order to achieve more. This worked great for them in the past. But, when it did, they also had 8 resumes on file for every pilot. I think everyone will agree that this is no longer the case. In addition, those on the outside looking in will observe the infighting and may look elsewhere. If the airline as a whole is having a difficult time keeping the aircraft staffed, then management will have to change that outside perception. Or, they might change the inside dynamics.

Here are my thoughts. I think Jerry has accomplished his goal of lowering our expectations. The new ASA TA is within a couple of percent of what Skywest has. I don't know where exactly Skywest is in terms of hiring, but ASA has been hurting and over last summer our Crew related cancellations and delays were the highest I've seen in 7 years. Other airlines are suffering too. Look and Pinnicle and Mesa. Bottom line, if your marketable, why sell yourself to a carrier that had last year's quick upgrade.

From a business standpoint, one absolutely has to look at combining the operation of Skywest and ASA. The ability to staff and service the entire operation from reallocating resources form one location to another would be huge in my opinion. I'm simply looking at what the end operation would look like, not the road to get there.

I think the reality is that most (obviously not all) regionals are about the same at the end of the day. Some my have better QOL. Some better pay, while others might have a domicile where you want to live (today, anyway). You may win with a lateral move or you may look back in 5 years with regret. To make an choice, you must really look at everything and be Lucky at the same time. What happens tomorrow may completely change everything.
 
The Airline that allegedly aproached Jerry wouldn't happen to be the most heavily unionized airline in the country would it?

you know as well!!

actually, I don't believe this rumor.
 
I heard Elvis is still alive and has been hanging out with Anna Nicole Smith in Vegas.
What's your source?
 
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does it matter? I could say JA, BH or any top SGU type, or 'a very senior captain' and you'd still poo poo it.

like I said, though, I don't buy it.
 
I heard that same thing. what I was told is that the airline that came to us with the deal said it'll depend on the outcome of the drive, not Jerry passing on it.






Righhhhhhht, another airline would tell JA that the only way they would let us do flying is if our pilot group isn't ALPA...happens all the time.

NOT!!!!



P.S. Have another heaping glass of koolaid while it's still fresh!
 
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does it matter? I could say JA, BH or any top SGU type, or 'a very senior captain' and you'd still poo poo it.

like I said, though, I don't buy it.

I'm just trying to point out how ridiculous these statements are without a source. I don't buy it either.
 
Skynation said,
like I said, though, I don't buy it.

Then why did you say?
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Word is that if the ALPA is voted down tomorrow - there is a huge new contract waiting. We shall see.

I heard that too.

What was your source?
 
Skynation said,


Then why did you say?


What was your source?







I heard that if we "deal BH an ace" by voting down ALPA, then we will be rewarded with a huge pay increase across the board and everything will be just wonderful forever after...oh wait, thats already happened several times and then we don't hear from management or SAPA again until the next union drive starts up!!
 
I heard that if we "deal BH an ace" by voting down ALPA, then we will be rewarded with a huge pay increase across the board and everything will be just wonderful forever after...oh wait, thats already happened several times and then we don't hear from management or SAPA again until the next union drive starts up!!

Sad but true. Those who don't study/learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.
 
So if ALPA gets voted in, this "huge new contract" suddenly won't exist anymore? I'm sure the shareholders would love the fact that Jerry and the gang are passing up big business because they denied growth to their employees out of spite. Do you guys over there really believe everything you hear?

It's not ja and gang. It would be the major partner that is nervious giving airplanes to an airline that may strike over a contract. look around, what airline got huge growth durring contract talks? NONE!
 
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I heard that if we "deal BH an ace" by voting down ALPA, then we will be rewarded with a huge pay increase across the board and everything will be just wonderful forever after...oh wait, thats already happened several times and then we don't hear from management or SAPA again until the next union drive starts up!!

Woo Hoo....more 1% pay raises for everybody!!!!!!!!!

Maybe they'll even kick in a little for the 120 guys this time??????
 
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The fact is when you go into a new contract you give up about 3-5 years of your life.. Nothing changes in that time. Maybe a few upgrades do to attrition but not any huge growth. ALPA is a big commitment out of the SkyWest pilots near future. Things wont change overnight and more likley not for 3-5 years. I'm glad this is over in less then 24 hours.
 

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