Will Republic Survive?

[cjscinta]

First off, don't count BB out. He is a pretty smart guy.

Secondly, I don't see Southwest expanding very much in MKE. They already have the Chicago market locked up. Wouldn't they just be pulling market share from themselves??

 

[CitationLover]

First off, don't count BB out. He is a pretty smart guy.

He believes that the pope is infallible, that's not too smart.

 

[redflyer65]

MKE pulls from ORD, not as far south as MDW. Its an attempt to get WI passengers that used to drive to ORD.

I think all the legacies will dump the Republic feed as soon as legally possible, then you can come back and see how it will work out for them.

RF

 

[ACL65PILOT]

If they take delivery of the C-Series they will do more than survive, they will dominate.

Why? you ask:

Well they are getting the maintenance rights to the GTF for 15 years. That will be a huge revenue stream to float them in their lean times. If Boeing or Airbus add that engine to their airframes even more so. It will be worth billions.

 

[chqflyer]

If they take delivery of the C-Series they will do more than survive, they will dominate.

Why? you ask:

Well they are getting the maintenance rights to the GTF for 15 years. That will be a huge revenue stream to float them in their lean times. If Boeing or Airbus add that engine to their airframes even more so. It will be worth billions.

What color is the sky on your planet?

 

[rumrunner300]

The time I spent at RJET et. al., was the only time in my 16 years of commercial flying that I did not doubt the ability of the guy at the helm.

Has he bitten off a giant chunk of gristle? Yep.

Do I think that the guy is smart enough to make it work (even with the anchor of religion around his neck)? Yep.

He believes in the company, he has a legion of people who believe in the company (bash them if you will, cynical bastards, but they like where they work and that is what pisses you off the most)

I have lost more making bets on this f'n industry to make any more, but I would not count them out.

rum....

 

[Grey Ghost]

People are so smart on here!

 

[hockeypilot44]

If they take delivery of the C-Series they will do more than survive, they will dominate.

Why? you ask:

Well they are getting the maintenance rights to the GTF for 15 years. That will be a huge revenue stream to float them in their lean times. If Boeing or Airbus add that engine to their airframes even more so. It will be worth billions.

What does this mean exactly? If Delta puts GTF engines on the 320, is Delta not allowed to perform maintenance on these engines? Would all maintenance work on these engines have to be contracted to Republic? I guess I'm not sure what maintenance rights are since every airline has to do maintenance.

 

[Anonymous2]

If they take delivery of the C-Series they will do more than survive, they will dominate.

Why? you ask:

Well they are getting the maintenance rights to the GTF for 15 years. That will be a huge revenue stream to float them in their lean times. If Boeing or Airbus add that engine to their airframes even more so. It will be worth billions.

What exactly does that mean?

 

[hoover84]

Airlines that signup for the power by the hour contacts will most likely fall under this provision…just a guess.

 

[DOVPILOT]

Don't fool yourself. I could see a Dallas based company allowing Republic to fly 100 seat jets for them.

Keep on dreaming, AA will never allow that to happen!!!

 

[airludy]

I dont think Bedford knows what he is doing. I think he is over his head on this one. Just a few months ago he is on the MKE evening news talking about how he was going to expand the Midwest brand. Well, guess what? Now he is talking of dropping the name all together. So is he a liar or just clueless?
Running a cutthroat regional airline is not the same as running your own airline. You need a better business model than paying the lowest wages to your employees. Employees build the company.

 

[BoilerUP]

So is he a liar or just clueless?

Nothing Brian Bedford has done in his entire time at Chautauqua/Republic gives one cause to think he's "clueless".

Nothing.

He's grown CHQ from Saabs and a few E145s into a regional airline powerhouse. He's always been at least one step ahead of labor, with lots of gray areas in the pilot contract and strong contractual language in the lift agreements protecting RAH's financial interests

That having been said, "past results are not indicative of future performance"....but I still think Republic is going to be just fine going forward. They've got guaranteed revenue from their fee-for-departure agreements for the better part of this decade to help subsidize their branded airline (regardless of the name they use), the ability to cherry-pick the most capable management talent from Frontier and Midwest that "knows how to run an airline" (an oft-used excuse why they'll fail), and they're getting in early (again) on another possible game-changing airframe (again).

If SWA couldn't kill US Airways nearly a decade ago, and Delta couldn't crush AirTran, I wouldn't be terribly concerned about anybody putting Republic out of business.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Then why hasn't SWA forced "Tran" out of BWI, MCO, FLL, TPA, MDW, ETC?

Forced? Hell, I thought they had tugs they used for pushback.

 

[Red Baron]

If that is true, SWA will never force Airtran out of anywhere as Airtran's CASM is about 10% lower than Southwest's.

And I hope you all get the pay raise you deserve in the future, even if it means that your CASM may increase.

Concerning Republic, who knows. They do have heavy competition in MKE and DEN as a stand alone. It should be interesting.

 

[rider850]

Republic

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[chqflyer]

Do you have a copy of the current contract. I know you don't or you wouldn't be making that statement.

AA's contract does not allow anyone other than eagle to operate any jet with more than 50 seats. CHQ was paying AA a fine of several hundred thousand dollars per month when the Yonited 170's first arrived, hence the abrupt purchase of S5 to get around that contract violation.

 

[maxblast72]

And I hope you all get the pay raise you deserve in the future, even if it means that your CASM may increase.

Pilots are only responsible for approximately 10% of Airtran's total CASM (and all Airtran labor groups combined represent approximately 20% of Airtran's total CASM). Even if Airtran pilots get a significant raise in 2010, Airtran's CASM will still be lower than Southwest's.

The rest of Airtran's labor groups are very unorganized and will continue to accept below industry average. My wife is a FA for Airtran and tells me how little most FAs pay attention to what is going on (she is guilty too). Customer service agents and rampers continue to vote down representation every other year. I guess that is good for Airtran pilots. More money left on the table for pilots when other employee groups continue to leave money on the table.

 

[dojetdriver]

AA's contract does not allow anyone other than eagle to operate any jet with more than 50 seats. CHQ was paying AA a fine of several hundred thousand dollars per month when the Yonited 170's first arrived, hence the abrupt purchase of S5 to get around that contract violation.

You think Yo-nited would have learned with the ACA/ACJet operating certificate issue that came about in 1999-2000.

 

[Wesb737fo]

I couldn't give a carp less if they survive or not.