Will Netjets get the newly updated C680?

[Heavy Set]

Is Netjets getting any of the newly revamped Sovereigns or have the orders been fulfilled? I know Netjets upgraded the XL with the XLS a few years back.

Buddy sent me a picture of the newly-upgrade flight deck and it looks pretty nice:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Cess...11807/L/&sid=99839e494ac3e83aa20464cd7cb0bb72

Perhaps they could just upgrade the flightdecks on the airframes if not ordering new birds....

 

[CA1900]

Is Netjets getting any of the newly revamped Sovereigns or have the orders been fulfilled?

I don't believe we have any more unfulfilled Cessna orders, and I haven't heard of any new purchases.

Perhaps they could just upgrade the flightdecks on the airframes if not ordering new birds....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdYPxFMhEkE

 

[AeroBoy]

I don't believe we have any more unfulfilled Cessna orders, and I haven't heard of any new purchases.

You're forgetting about the firm order for 25 Cessna Citation Latitudes and options on 125 more: http://www.netjets.com/News/2012/netjets-announces-largest-aviation-order/

 

[CA1900]

You're forgetting about the firm order for 25 Cessna Citation Latitudes and options on 125 more: http://www.netjets.com/News/2012/netjets-announces-largest-aviation-order/

You're correct! Forgot about those. I guess they don't really sink in for me until I see one on property.

To clarify, we don't (to my knowledge) have any unfulfilled orders for more of models that we already have on property -- XLS+, new Sovereign, the Ten, etc.

 

[BuckMurdock1]

I've heard that Cessna is developing the XLS++ and XLS++{2} ...

 

[hawkerflyer]

Wow, that cockpit is nice.

 

[jtf]

Although I don't trust much of what comes from management's mouths, they have claimed that the Latitude would replace all the Sovereigns and Hawked 800s and 900s. I'm not sure how capable the Latitude will be compared to the 680, I just know it has a bigger cross section and doesn't fly as far.

 

[cldsfr79]

Is Netjets getting any of the newly revamped Sovereigns or have the orders been fulfilled? I know Netjets upgraded the XL with the XLS a few years back.

Buddy sent me a picture of the newly-upgrade flight deck and it looks pretty nice:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Cess...11807/L/&sid=99839e494ac3e83aa20464cd7cb0bb72

Perhaps they could just upgrade the flightdecks on the airframes if not ordering new birds....

Nope. CE680s will be gone as Latitudes arrive (speculation).

And why would NJ purchase the same plane with new innovative technology when they can keep an older version with Honeywell instruments that used to attempt to lawn-dart you if you bump the barber-pole, or an FMS the erases or adds waypoints for fun, or an autopilot you have to babysit because it might do something screwy, or the fact that each time Honeywell updates it's system to fix its last errors and glitches, new ones are created.

 

[johnsonrod]

Nope. CE680s will be gone as Latitudes arrive (speculation).

And why would NJ purchase the same plane with new innovative technology when they can keep an older version with Honeywell instruments that used to attempt to lawn-dart you if you bump the barber-pole, or an FMS the erases or adds waypoints for fun, or an autopilot you have to babysit because it might do something screwy, or the fact that each time Honeywell updates it's system to fix its last errors and glitches, new ones are created.

Yikes!!!! I guess that helps you fight boredom during those longer flights in the Sovereign.

I am not impressed with Honeywell avionics - my super archaic Primus 1000 was terrible when it was introduced a decade+ ago and the newer stuff doesn't impress me either.

I am a Collins fan these days. Would love to fly that ProLine Fusion you find in the Globals, G280 and the new C-Series. And I hear the PL 21 is easy to use.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Nope. CE680s will be gone as Latitudes arrive (speculation).

And why would NJ purchase the same plane with new innovative technology when they can keep an older version with Honeywell instruments that used to attempt to lawn-dart you if you bump the barber-pole, or an FMS the erases or adds waypoints for fun, or an autopilot you have to babysit because it might do something screwy, or the fact that each time Honeywell updates it's system to fix its last errors and glitches, new ones are created.

That's Honey-Not-So-Well to you....

 

[Rubber Ducky]

It's a shame that a few inept people at Honeywell can screw up so bad that Cessna dumps the whole package. Most who have flown the Sovereign know what it takes to fix it but Honeywell is too dumb to listen to the pilots. It ain't rocket science.

 

[CA1900]

Yikes!!!! I guess that helps you fight boredom during those longer flights in the Sovereign.

The Excel's FMS does it too (assuming it's the same thing as the Sovereign's issue). If you load a departure and an arrival into the FMS, and they both include a heading to be flown, then you better hope ATC doesn't change runways on you. Because if you then change the runway, it dumps virtually the entire flight plan. Not all of it, of course -- just everything after the last waypoint on the SID. So when you get back to the first page of the flight plan, everything looks fine at first glance.

Hopefully you catch it, and then you get to tell ATC to "hang on" while you're trying to reload the entire route. They aren't amused, and neither am I. The only real way to prevent it is to hold off loading the arrival until you're in the air.

If this is the kind of stuff they sell to the military, I'm surprised their executives haven't been shot for treason.

 

[-FlyAuburn-]

It's a shame that a few inept people at Honeywell can screw up so bad that Cessna dumps the whole package. Most who have flown the Sovereign know what it takes to fix it but Honeywell is too dumb to listen to the pilots. It ain't rocket science.

Been flying the 680 for almost 4 years now. It DEFINITELY has some issues. Phase 5.2 fixed some and created more. Overall the airplane is much better than it used to be. Hey, at least it pitches up now when you bump the barber pole!!!