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Funny you should ask that today:

U.S. Postal Service, FedEx Express Sign Agreement for Domestic Air Transportation Through 2013; Contract Expected to Generate about $8 Billion in Revenue

MEMPHIS, Tenn.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 1, 2006--FedEx Express, a subsidiary of FedEx Corp. (NYSE: FDX), and the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) today announced a new agreement for domestic air transportation of mail through 2013.

The Postal Service and FedEx Express signed a seven-year contract in 2001 for airport-to-airport delivery of mail within the United States. The contract announced today will replace the final two years of that contract and a new seven-year agreement will commence in October of 2006.
The agreement is expected to generate about $8 billion in revenue over the life of the seven-year contract.
FedEx Express will continue to fly over 4 million pounds of U.S. mail every business day - the equivalent of 40 wide-body DC10 aircraft using existing aircraft and facilities.
"The new contract allows the Postal Service and FedEx to continue our successful business relationship," said Postmaster General John E. Potter. "This relationship benefits postal customers by allowing us to maintain our high service standards while keeping costs affordable."
"Reaching a new agreement a full two years ahead of schedule is proof positive of the excellent relationship that FedEx has developed with the U.S. Postal Service," said David J. Bronczek, president and chief executive officer of FedEx Express. "We are proud of the trust the Postal Service has placed in us and their confidence in our fast, reliable and efficient service."
About FedEx Corp.
FedEx Corp. (NYSE: FDX) provides customers and businesses worldwide with a broad portfolio of transportation, e-commerce and business services. With annual revenues of $32 billion, the company offers integrated business applications through operating companies competing collectively and managed collaboratively, under the respected FedEx brand. Consistently ranked among the world's most admired and trusted employers, FedEx inspires its more than 260,000 employees and contractors to remain "absolutely, positively" focused on safety, the highest ethical and professional standards and the needs of their customers and communities. For more information, visit www.fedex.com.
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Conservation of amendable contract theory?

USPS gets their contract two years ahead of schedule, pilots are two years behind???? ahem!
 
Laughing_Jakal said:
USPS gets their contract two years ahead of schedule, pilots are two years behind???? ahem!
Not only that, but recent rumors of a FedEx and UPS merger have been CONFIRMED!
 
Between the UPS TA and the new 8 billion USPS 7 year contract, enough is enough.


Hey Fred, do you think it's time for a new contract yet??????????????
 
Hmmm

{FEDEX SIGNS POSTAL DEAL}
FedEx has inked a five-year, $8 billion deal to carry U.S. Postal Service express packages. Bloomberg reports FedEx will carry the packages through 2013. The contract supplants an agreement dating to 2001 that was due to expire in 2008 and covers about 4 million pounds of mail. Just last month, UPS landed a $300 million mail contract. A spokesman for the Postal Service tells Bloomberg, UPS wasn’t part of the contract renewal process because of a clause for exclusive negotiations on an extension for FedEx.

Is Fred in bed with the PostMaster?
 
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Falconjet said:
Fred has been in bed with a lot of people in Washington for a very long time.

FJ

Good thing for us. I hear tell he's great buddies with John Kerry and George Bush both. From an outsider's populist viewpoint, that kind of cozy relationship sucks. From a FDX employee perspective, it doesn't suck so bad.
 
3 words for FedEx:

Write the check!

FJ

The company is asking for vacation buy back for just about every seat. If guys don't sell back vacation, drop CIC and don't fly draft or AVA, the check will be written sooner rather than later.
 
PreContact said:
{FEDEX SIGNS POSTAL DEAL}
FedEx has inked a five-year, $8 billion deal to carry U.S. Postal Service express packages. Bloomberg reports FedEx will carry the packages through 2013. The contract supplants an agreement dating to 2001 that was due to expire in 2008 and covers about 4 million pounds of mail. Just last month, UPS landed a $300 million mail contract. A spokesman for the Postal Service tells Bloomberg, UPS wasn’t part of the contract renewal process because of a clause for exclusive negotiations on an extension for FedEx.

I guess the USPS isn't too worried about our current labor problems/issues we have going on right now. I'm sure Fred told the PostMaster everything was fine and that he's going to right a big fat check but ONLY when absolutely nessisary. As long as guys are still flying extra you can keep holding your breath.

I will have to say, I do think it is happening less and less. Company called me tonight for a DFT trip tomorrow (a disputed pairing at that) Flight 77 LAX-HNL 02AUG06 L/O HNL-OAK-LAX. A 12 hr trip that ended up costing the company OVER 30 HOURS.
 
PT,

Did somebody voluntarily fly the disputed pairing(or the disputed part of the pairing)? Even at draft this is unacceptable and not up for debate. This is completely different from someone flying draft on a non-disputed pairing, which is up to them to decide.

FLYING DISPUTED PAIRINGS MAKES THIS JOB MORE PAINFUL AND LESS SAFE!!! Even if the company has to pay 150% this month, when folks fly them it gives the company the ammunition to continue these pairings in the future. It will save them money in the long term, so the 150% is chump change to them.

DON'T DO IT
 
I will have to say, I do think it is happening less and less. Company called me tonight for a DFT trip tomorrow (a disputed pairing at that) Flight 77 LAX-HNL 02AUG06 L/O HNL-OAK-LAX. A 12 hr trip that ended up costing the company OVER 30 HOURS.

How did it cost the company 30 hours? Did someone take this trip?
 
Purpled said:
PT,

Did somebody voluntarily fly the disputed pairing(or the disputed part of the pairing)? Even at draft this is unacceptable and not up for debate. This is completely different from someone flying draft on a non-disputed pairing, which is up to them to decide.

FLYING DISPUTED PAIRINGS MAKES THIS JOB MORE PAINFUL AND LESS SAFE!!! Even if the company has to pay 150% this month, when folks fly them it gives the company the ammunition to continue these pairings in the future. It will save them money in the long term, so the 150% is chump change to them.

Yes, the trip got covered...at DFT, scheduling broke the trip in half. Operate to HNL, DH back to LAX, which is not disputed. Then the other half was built DH to HNL, operate HNL-OAK-LAX...which IS disputed.

So...what was a 12 hr trip got broken up into two 11 hr trips. At DFT pay (11 x 1.5 x 2) that costs the company about 33 hours plus a First class ticket two and from HNL...ouch!

On a side note though, I can proudly say that 75% of the disputed pairings in LAX this month are still in open time for both CPT and FO. It' still not 100% but a lot better than last month.
 
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PurpleTail said:
So...what was a 12 hr trip got broken up into two 11 hr trips. At DFT pay (11 x 1.5 x 2) that costs the company about 33 hours plus a First class ticket two and from HNL...ouch!

Depending on how you look at it, that is chump change to the company as long as the freight is getting moved. If, on the other hand, the freight doesn't get moved at all, now we are talking some real money.
 
active_herk said:
Depending on how you look at it, that is chump change to the company as long as the freight is getting moved. If, on the other hand, the freight doesn't get moved at all, now we are talking some real money.

Agreed, In my opinion there is no excuse for taking disputed flying. Not at any price, not for any reason.

I will agree, however, that it's tough to ID out of domicile flying as disputed. I do have a bit of sympathy for guys that fall for this trick.
We need a better system to help us recognize cross-domicile disputes!!
 
active_herk said:
Depending on how you look at it, that is chump change to the company as long as the freight is getting moved. If, on the other hand, the freight doesn't get moved at all, now we are talking some real money.

100% correct, I wish the rest of the crewforce saw it that way too.
 
Purpled said:
I will agree, however, that it's tough to ID out of domicile flying as disputed. I do have a bit of sympathy for guys that fall for this trick.
We need a better system to help us recognize cross-domicile disputes!!

I agree with you too Purp. But this was an LA pairing flow by LA pilots. Nothing tricky or cross-domiciled about this particular instance. For benefit of the doubt...the trip was split in two and DH's added, that might of been enough...but I doubt it.
 
Yeah, I think we as a pilot group just need to pay a little more attention here. I'd bet that many disputed pairings are flown out of ignorance, not malice.
 
Yes, I think you are right. It may seem like asking alot, but I think people need to look at why the pairings are disputed, and not just at the fact they are disputed. It might save someone from flying a pairing they wouldn't be flying otherwise. Of course, it seems there are so many disputed pairings now, it is hard to keep track.
 
it is only to our benifit to identify these trips and not fly them, broken up or not... what would you recommend the watchdogs do to keep the crew force involved and informed?
 
A good portion of the time, when a disputed pairing is broken up, the reason for the dispute is eliminated and it is therefore no longer a disputed trip.
 
TheBaron said:
A good portion of the time, when a disputed pairing is broken up, the reason for the dispute is eliminated and it is therefore no longer a disputed trip.

I haven't noticed many of this happening. The ones that I have noticed still have the dispute intact.

If the disputed flying is eliminated, then there is not problem flying it, if not...JUST SAY NO!
 
cabana #2 said:
it is only to our benifit to identify these trips and not fly them, broken up or not... what would you recommend the watchdogs do to keep the crew force involved and informed?

I guess this is where a little personal responsibility takes place. It would be nearly impossible to monitor this on a case-by-case basis, as a disputed pairing can be broken up or changed at any time. When it is changed, it can either correct the dispute (good) or just mask it (i.e. slap a deadhead on it and change domicles, break it into two parts with the disput intact, or a combination of those two [bad]). As a crewmember, you should be familiar with which pairings are disputed by number, and then if you see a pairing that isn't in the bidpack, you should investigate it vs. the disputed pairings to see whether it is a good pairing or not.

Besides, most of these disputed pairings are so ugly, I can't understand why someone would want to pick them up voluntarily in the first place, disputed or not. Hope this helps.
 
TheBaron said:
A good portion of the time, when a disputed pairing is broken up, the reason for the dispute is eliminated and it is therefore no longer a disputed trip.

Not true. Every time I have seen a spilt the disputed portion was still there. I have yet to see a disputed trip fixed with a split for ANC F/O's or for a split that shows up here from MEM that is fixed.

Could be happening in other seats, but I doubt it. The company sees nothing wrong with the trip why would the fix it in a revision. Chances are some idiot is going to pick it up anyway.
 
I'll tell a tale on myself in hopes of enlightening others. I was not paying as close attention as I should have been a couple of months ago and requested a disputed pairing on my VTO (inadvertantly). When I realized what I had done, it was too late to chuck it, so I was stuck with it. I learned then and there that the SIG disputes these pairings for a reason. It was fine, right up until the part that was disputed. Then it really, really sucked. I learned my lesson, I will never ever touch one of those again, for many reasons-not the least is that pairings are disputed because there is something unsafe about them.

Before I get trashed, I am new to FedEx and we didn't have the disputed pairing process at my last job. Not an excuse, but I did learn something: DON'T DO IT!
 
I did it too - last fall.

Got my name on a list, I did. First F/O on that list, as a matter of fact.

Pure ignorance on my part. Now I've learned: any trip worth more than ~9 hours in open time is suspect. Look them up.
 

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