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Da Vinci

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my wife has a comercial single and private multi. english isn't her first language which is the only reason she isn't flying now. she speaks english fine in my opinion-but her confidence and aviation radio experience is really poor now.

i'm trying to find some way for my wife to fly with an experience pilot and get used to working the radios and get some stick time. she loves airplanes more then me i'm sure!!! since i'm flying regularly, she misses it dearly.

one idea was angel flights co pilot. is this a good idea??? any others?

assuming we are all adults here...mistakenly i'm sure, it would be so nice to not have 100 replys of...she can fly my plane, or i'll give her some stick time...
 
Hey amigo English isnt my first language.I fly throught the busiest Airports with no problem.Sometimes I dont understand clearances but I dont bother.
Its all about oportunites..I love this country!
 
“Sometimes I dont understand clearances but I dont bother.”

;) Love it! That’s a classic!

“…my wife has a commercial single and private multi. English isn't her first language which is the only reason she isn't flying now…”

“…she speaks english fine in my opinion-but her confidence and aviation radio experience is really poor now…”

When I used to flight instruct I had several students who came from India, France, etc. I hooked them up with an English major student at the local university who would “tutor” them in aviation phraseology. He’d read out ATC clearances, etc. to them and when they repeated the clearances he’d tape it and let them listen to it; then he’d point out the mistakes being made and let them do it all over again. He only charged $15/hour and I can tell you their skills would improve within weeks!

How did I come up with the idea? Well, it worked for me! I was (and occasionally still am) using his services myself as English is not my native tongue either. Even though I’ve been an airline pilot for quite some time now, I realize there’s always time for more improvements. Safety comes first and the tutoring helped me tremendously in becoming an even safer pilot; I believe she’d benefit greatly from a similar program. I’m sure there’re plenty of cash-strapped CFI’s, commercial pilots, etc who’d be willing to offer some tutoring for a few bucks.

I’d say begin with that and as she becomes more comfortable try to find a local pilot she can fly with.

Good luck to y’all (I know, my tutor was a hillbilly ;))

av80r
 
Why not just go up with an experienced CFI???? That's what they are for.
 
This used to work for some of my students, English challenged or not: Get a handheld radio (beg, borrow, buy) and go to a busy airport with an AFD and LISTEN! She can read back the clearances to herself, just stay away from the transmit button. It'll also help her with her clearance shorthand. You may want to go with her for if the federales witness a foreign-born listening to an aviation radio and taking down "coded notes" there may be room for misunderstanding.

Bon chance!
 
PacoPollo said:
Hey amigo English isnt my first language.I fly throught the busiest Airports with no problem.Sometimes I dont understand clearances but I dont bother.
Its all about oportunites..I love this country!

So that why Aeromexico is always in the penalty box in ORD
 
PacoPollo said:
Hey amigo English isnt my first language.I fly throught the busiest Airports with no problem.Sometimes I dont understand clearances but I dont bother.
Its all about
oportunites
..I love this country!

Looks like the Pollo Loco could do with an spell-checker, too!!!!:D
 
Is she attractive ? If so I'll put her in the right seat of a citation!:nuts:
Da Vinci said:
my wife has a comercial single and private multi. english isn't her first language which is the only reason she isn't flying now. she speaks english fine in my opinion-but her confidence and aviation radio experience is really poor now.

i'm trying to find some way for my wife to fly with an experience pilot and get used to working the radios and get some stick time. she loves airplanes more then me i'm sure!!! since i'm flying regularly, she misses it dearly.

one idea was angel flights co pilot. is this a good idea??? any others?

assuming we are all adults here...mistakenly i'm sure, it would be so nice to not have 100 replys of...she can fly my plane, or i'll give her some stick time...
 
Da Vinci said:
. . . . i'm trying to find some way for my wife to fly with an experience pilot and get used to working the radios and get some stick time. . . .

uh huh huh. . . you should be careful trying to find your wife stick time. . . .uh huh huh
 
get her a scanner, go to any airport, and have her listen. it will take practice but she will slowly understand them better.
 
there was some good advise here! we did buy a radio and she can go to the local delta and listen. as for flying with cfi's....well....i'm a pilot....so money is um...not very plentiful!! as for is she attractive....very! is she smart...extremely!!! as for the stick-time jokes...it was a matter of time
:/
 
Go to liveatc.com and have her listen with you. Pick a tail/flight number and have her follow that one. After the flight is handed off, yoo can quiz her or answer any questions she may have. This worked great with the students I had where english was not their first language. It's free and you can do it at home anytime.
 
Also make her memorize what information is included in each clearance, so that she knows what to expect in each transmission. If she have some "tags" to put the information she recieves on, she may be able to stock it in short term memory while at the same time keep on top of interpreting the next thing controller is saying. English isnt my first language either, and memorizing the elements of the clearances worked for me, especially those long IFR-clearances...:
'N737NE Cleared to Miami VOR via V3, fly runway heading, climb and maintain 3000 expect 5,000 10 minutes after departure, departure frequency 134.00 squawk 0245'. Thats easy: clearance, route, altitude, frequency and squawk. CRAFT.

'N737NE Turn left heading 100 maintain 2000, descend and maintain 1600 when established inbound, cleared approach ILS 9L, contact tower at the outer marker.' Again easy: heading, altitude, clearance.

Or clearance delivery: she has to say aircraft type, callsign, type of request (VFR/IFR departure), where she wants to and at what altitude, and at last ATIS information. Controllers will always give back altitude, departure frequency and squawk code, or just heading, altitude and departure frequency if its non-radar airport.
 
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Get her a hand held radio and a tape recorder. Have her listen to the clearances, and then repeat them to the tape recorder. At the same time she is to copy them just as she would in the real world. I did this for a lady from Germany. She caught on very quickly and is now doing flight instruction. Good luck to you.
 

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