why?

[hopeful]

Why is it that regional pilots always think they are getting screwed by the majors?

Hell, the only reason you have the job in the first place is because of the major. The majors agreed to use regional carriers because it was economically beneficial to do so. If the benefits no longer exists then the majors have every right to do what ever they want.

If you are at one of the regionals that might end up merging with the major, consider yourself extremely lucky. Even if it is a strait staple of the seniority and you are the last on the list, you are better off than before. (it better be a strait staple) You are working for a major. You obviously were not qualified or competive before or you would not be working at the regional. If you end up getting furloughed because of it, shrug your shoulders and realise that you really did not deserve to be on that seniority list anyway. Consider yourself lucky to have had the chance to work for a major even if only temporarily. (If you did deserve it you would have been hired by the major in the first place. Not ended up on their seniority list by way of luck)

So bottom line is, quit whinning.

 

[Caveman]

Flamebait. Please don't take the hook. Let this die right here, right now.

 

[C-5 MEM]

Thank you sir may I have another.........Thank you sir may I have another................Thank you sir may I have another............

Hopeful are you asking me to walk your resume in.

 

[sleepy]

Flamebait. Please don't take the hook. Let this die right here, right now.

Yes it is.

 

[DH200]

Mr.Major

Nice avatar! At least you got SOMETHING correct.

 

[larry]

flaimbait

Since we are posting flaimbait....

So is it sitting close to another guy all the time that makes most pilots gay?

Oh well, better get back to work here at gulf stream academy, which my dad is paying for, he's friends with the owner.

By the way, anybody have any info on interviews with Freedom? I have an interview comming up soon.

 

[blzr]

We at the regionals all know that we are here to feed the majors. The fact is, we are treated like scooter trash in the terminal or when we have to ride the big iron. That's al ok too. What pisses me off, and it's happening where I work, is that due to a terrable buisness plan and outragious costs, you at the majors are getting put out on the street. Now you think it is your RIGHT to flow back into our jobs. You didn't have anything to do with us before, and certainly didn't preferentially hire any of us.
you get over it, and don't forget to ask me if I want to Super Size my drink and Fries next time I see you.

P.S. I'll be in a hurry, i have to get to the airport.

 

[PilotMonkey]

So bottom line is, quit whinning.

HYPOCRITE!! Typical of your kind!

 

[hopeful]

flame bait? Call it what you will. I just want to know why you guys think anyone owes you anything.

I paid my dues for many years and I know that nobody owes me anything. If I get furloughed tomorrow, I will be upset about being out of a job, but I will still realize that nobody owed me that job. It is all business. Companies do what it takes to make money. Period. That is the whole reason for their existance.

The majors allowed you guys to work for them for a while because it helped make them money. If that is no longer the case or the circumstances have changed, then they need to discard you. You served your purpose at the time and are no longer feasible. Sorry about your bad luck. Quit whinning about it and go find another job. But remember, nobody owes you anything.

 

[Stiffler]

I feel your pain.

Hopeful, I hear what you are screaming. Why just the other day I was taxiing at ORD and passed a UAL 747. I looked over at my FO and said, "Man, those mainline guys are taking our jobs....I mean that one plane right there could be 25 RJs."

 

[slapstick]

piluts are bad at speling and whin all the time

 

[tacojet]

here's another "hopeful" revalation...

"Why would Jetblue sell themselves to skywest? Don't you think it would be the other way around? Big Brothers usually don't get beat up by their little brothers.

Skywest is a regional and even if they bought bigger airplanes it would be hard for them to grow into those shoes. They have the regional metality and it would be hard to break that. Are they going to pay a 737 captain $67 an hour? Good Luck with that."

Consider the source, I say.

 

[hopeful]

notice noone responded to your dumba$$ remarks. Thought you would be cute and repost what I put on the other thread, huh. Funny how people usually realize the truth when it is put down their throats.

i was not bashing Skywest, I was merely commenting on the state of the union, so to speak, as far as regional metality goes. you guys prove my point everytime you whine about the majors "screwing" you.

I would tell you to grow up, but I realize that some would say it was immature of me to start this thread. So I will just hold my tongue until the day i see you, or hear you, at the bar spouting off. Then I will kick your a$$.


see ya gimp.

 

[Brother Francis]

Subtle as a cannibal's belch

Heeere, fishy, fishy...

Go troll your bait in the "dorky pilot" thread where it belongs.

 

[C-5 MEM]

Hopeful,

You never did get around to my question; who do you fly for?

 

[Iced_up]

Hey Hopeful!

as far as regional metality goes.

Your "mentality" shows your 3rd grade education. And your attitude is unlike a MAJOR airline pilot, which you're probably not. Time to grow up!

 

[Cardinal]

I paid my dues for many years and I know that nobody owes me anything.

Just how can you guys take issue with a statement like this? Why, what bad thing did this man do? I found nothing deserving of death in him.

 

[hmmm]

Hopeful..... I'll jumpseat to see you anytime anywhere as long as its on my day off and after I get a legal peice of paper releiving me of any liability and have a police officer there to watch it and referee I WILL kick your ass. Email me at [email protected] if you would like to take me up on it.

 

[Skank]

There you go hopeful, someone who is more than willing to kick the snot out of you (I'd pay to watch). Happy now?

 

[Bill Nelson]

Hopeful,

You are not alone. Most guys feel the same way you do about it, they just don't have the guts to say it. Thanks for bringing it out in the open. These guys will learn someday. (doubtful)

 

[Thunderchief]

Hopeful, you seem really pissed...

Okay hopeful, what am I supposed to do? You're pissed that the regionals are proliferating. Understandable... You're pissed cause regional pilots whine, WHAT PILOT DOESN'T???

What do you propose? Should I quit my job and go back to instructing or corporate? Is that gonna change anything?

Am I ever gonna get hired at a major if I go back to instructing?

I fail to see the logic in your thread, are you intentionally trying to piss me off? It's working...

ABOUT HOW BIG A BOY ARE YA???

 

[Thunderchief]

oh yeah...

WHO DO YOU WORK FOR!?!

 

[PilotMonkey]

He sounds like a Nazi to me...must work for American!

 

[Cargoboy]

Re: flaimbait

Since we are posting flaimbait....


Oh well, better get back to work here at gulf stream academy, which my dad is paying for, he's friends with the owner.

By the way, anybody have any info on interviews with Freedom? I have an interview comming up soon.

Hey Larry doesn't your dad know anyone at Freedom to get you the job?

 

[C-5 MEM]

One thing I learned over the years working at a fire department. If we were bored and wanted to start something up we would make up the wildest statement and watch people get pissed off. Now that I am at a airline I see the samething.
So here is what I would perpose. If someone gets on here and make the statements that is so wild and causes so much anger. Just let it go, its not worth it. There people out there that is all they want to do is cause problems and they enjoy watching the reaction. Just let it go.

 

[Cargoboy]

Just reading all of the posts above makes you wonder. Who got there flying career handed to them and who worked for it. Well if you worked for it, you know you appreciate it that much more and understand when you see an FO or Capt. on a major, you respect them. If you are mad cause someone won't give you that job and you feel like you of ALL the pilots out there deserve it. You are not only selfish, but we all know now why you aren't on the majors. Cause no self respecting Capt. wants to be a on a three day trip with you next to them. Myself, a 135 cargo flyer. Putting in my time. Just like I put my time in as an insructor. Yea I am broke and work two jobs but I am looking forward to the day I get that 121 job flying for a regional (and I am sure I will still be broke). If I am lucky enough and work hard enough maybe I can sit next to some of the best pilots in the world and who really know what it is all about at the majors. But one thing for sure I am not going to bash or whine about them cause they are in a bigger plane and you think they should be flying smaller planes with you. Honestly would you want to fly a Saab or a 737 or and A320.....Gee let me think. And mad that a furloughed pilot took your job, since when is it your job and was it there fault they got furloughed? Just cause they want to keep there dream alive by taking a job that might be considered a step down. Hey, if they are more qualified than me when it comes time for the position then they deserve it. In the meantime, I finished my ATP, and I am building time and experience and waiting for my time to roll the dice for that regional job.
To all of the Furloughed pilots I wish you luck. To all of the pilots who are working hard for the job.....Keep the dream alive and don't give up. Talk to pilots above you when you can and get any help you can but don't expect anyone to hand you a job simply cause you think you should have it.
6000 pilots out there looking for jobs should tell yo something.....

 

[PilotMonkey]

That being said...PLEASE let this thread end!

 

[hmmm]

Yea Right Cargoboy........ Your just going to happily pick up your flight bag fluff the seat and help the furloughed mainline guy settle down into your seat that you worked so hard to get to at the regional after that mainline guy took his chances and left the regional to follow his dream. Now he expects to slip right back into your chair. Yea Right. Are you sure you're not just trying to make friends here? Get real. Oh and just so you can respect the words I wWORKED for all my licenses and have everyone available on both sides of the barrel maintenance and pilot. Maintenance being the more respectable as I see now. I just happen to like the flying more. NOT the politics of it on the ground.

 

[WhiteCloud]

<You obviously were not qualified or competive before or you would not be working at the regional.>

I think we should let this guy flameout. Ziggy1

 

[hmmm]

Competitive defined only equals: Not enough time.
Qualified defined only equals: Have college degree
Because everything else is the same at the regional including the flying skills. In fact the regional pilots usually have more skills and are sharper by the time they are competitive because of more cycles per day.

At my old airline flying DC8's the sharpest guys we hired were from the regional and the slowest to catch on were the fellas with low cycles furloughed from the majors i.e. Pan Am and Eastern. Proven again and again in the sim and online flying around mountains with landing elevations from 5,000 to 13,500 at night in the weather in South America and Europe.