Why the lateral move - JBLU-AAI and vice versa?

[Guam360]

you just answered it, there is about $80,000 worth of stock options, etc. in there.
I am jumpseating from MCO to DTW on the May 3rd, if you are on the Aitran flight I will show you.

non the less $239,000 was just that, his Line 1(wages, tips,etc.). there was actually more on a different section, he made alot, more that $300,000.

But the next point to this, no one hired from now gets stock options when hired, there is only employee stock purchase plan, even that is reduced from a 15% discount to 5% discount at purchase.

So the first two year guys made all the money, and do now, It trickles off greatly. I couldn't believe it at first.

 

[Lear70]

OK... so how does that correspond to the present topic?

"Why would people make a lateral move from AAI to JetBlue?"

Telling me what someone made as a one-time, unrepeatable event that is no longer available to new-hires doesn't exactly help make a good argument for that kind of lateral jump...?

 

[XBOEINGDRVR]

Well, I have worked for both and JB culture, training, and atmosphere beats AT hands down. I do like the fact AT has a B fund. I guess it comes down to what bases work for each and the growth/ relative senority. Either way, I believe both are here to stay providing no major crashes....

 

[Guam360]

OK... so how does that correspond to the present topic?

"Why would people make a lateral move from AAI to JetBlue?"

Telling me what someone made as a one-time, unrepeatable event that is no longer available to new-hires doesn't exactly help make a good argument for that kind of lateral jump...?

Ok As$, You questioned the pay, I made a small comment about the pay potential, which was ontrack, then I gave details.

Since you hate your life and Airtran so much leave or kill yourself.

The comment I made about new hires currently do Not receive stock options is part of this thread, and could influence a new hire or someone deciding between Airtran and JB.

 

[Lear70]

Ok As$, You questioned the pay, I made a small comment about the pay potential, which was ontrack, then I gave details.

No, you didn't.

You gave a one-time example of how someone can cash out their stock... IF it wasn't under water.

That kind of income can't be sustained year after year, which makes it a bad example of a reason to make a lateral move.

Since you hate your life and Airtran so much leave or kill yourself.

OK, genius. Where did I say that?

Here's a hint:

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=97405&page=3

Post # 36.

The comment I made about new hires currently do Not receive stock options is part of this thread, and could influence a new hire or someone deciding between Airtran and JB.

That's a very pertinent comment. All the other stuff about a quarter million dollars a year income at JB is not... especially given the fact that the stock is no longer available.

Well, I have worked for both and JB culture, training, and atmosphere beats AT hands down. I do like the fact AT has a B fund. I guess it comes down to what bases work for each and the growth/ relative senority. Either way, I believe both are here to stay providing no major crashes....

Well-said.

 

[Fins Up]

Maybe he's got some Check Airman pay in there or something like that.

 

[PHXFLYR]

I just did a long comparison of pay rates and retirement, and the F/O's at JB are compensated on average $7-10 per hour MORE than AAI pilots.

However, AAI CA's are compensated $10-15 per hour MORE than JB pilots.

Over a 25 year career, an AAI pilot with a 5 year upgrade will make approximately $500,000 more than a JB pilot, including retirement.

Those include the JB blended rates at the new payscales.

Go figure.

I don't have to.You already did!!


PHXFLYR
Too old to go anywhere.Something about "old dogs,new tricks" and all that

 

[737 Pylt]

I don't have to.You already did!!


PHXFLYR
Too old to go anywhere.Something about "old dogs,new tricks" and all that

Not to mention, young men, and HPilot! :laugh: :laugh:
Ceasar.....You're making it too easy!!
Have a good weekend tool!

737

 

[-9Capt]

300K/yr at AirTran? Only if the guy is a 12yr check airman who also teaches systems/indoc and works 20days a month. I'm a lazy 9 yr capt who cashed in 1/4 of my options and made just under $166K.

 

[j41driver]

300K/yr at AirTran? Only if the guy is a 12yr check airman who also teaches systems/indoc and works 20days a month. I'm a lazy 9 yr capt who cashed in 1/4 of my options and made just under $166K.

I flew with a check airmen like that recently. His month had 6 or 7 days off and he was going to make about $24K that month with all of the IOE pay, etc.

Now that kind of money with 15 days off.....sign me up!!

 

[GuinessGuy]

For me, living 100 miles from JFK made it an easy choice. The feeling of comfort you have knowing that your car is in the parking lot.
The only guy I know of that left Tran for Blue was for the same reason....DRIVING TO WORK IS AN AMAZING THING!!!!!!

 

[Murphy]

Captain I flew with this trip ran into an ex-AirTran FO in MCO who made the switch to JetBlue. He can drive to the JetBlue domicile in Boston and live where he wants to live. It made sense to me.

 

[100fly]

I want to work where they serve starbucks. Where is that at?