Why Not!!!!?

[frankbama]

just curious who pays more freedom or mesa or do we know?

 

[popilot]

i bleave freedom but not by much... i know you ... what part of Bama you frum boy?

 

[frankbama]

never been they don't have sizzler

 

[popilot]

that is hilarious!!!!! do you think im being rude or out of line?

 

[frankbama]

no i just think it's been talked to death so no one is going to be usefull you know how i feel unions are like women can't live with em can't live without em. i just wonder if we were in boom times and all the mainline guys still had jobs would j4j even be a problem or freedom? and would 90 seat rj's still be considered rj's not airplanes that should be flown by mainline guys but if i were you i'd stay were your are make more money better life go to the regionals when kids are in school you know. it would be fun to fly though

 

[popilot]

yeah but im ready for something new and you know how i am with unions that dont represent their members

 

[Jeepman]

How much is freedom paying? From what I understand it's really horrible & if it launches it's gonna drive payscales down for the regionals? Anyone?....


B.T.W. If your wondering I am NOT pro-union.

 

[big dog1]

Popilot;
Pilots like you are pure SCUM!!!


JeepmanIndustry Average Pay for 50 and 70 Seat Aircraft

Below is a spreadsheet showing the industry average pay for 70 seat aircraft, Mesa's current 50 seat pay rate, and the industry average 50 seat pay rate. Notice that Eagle's pay is $2-$5 per hour less than industry average, and Freedom's pay (as presented in PHX by Mr. Ornstein, but not made available to ALPA yet) is 1%-3% less than that. Once again, Mesa pilots providing the highest level of service at the lowest available prices.

Hourly Pay Rates on Regional Airline Equipment (as of March 1, 2002)
60 - 70 Seat Regional Jets Currently Operated by or in Contract of All Carriers in the Continental U.S.



Longevity Year:
A/L Effective Equipment 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18

CAPTAINS

MSA Jun-01 60-69 Pax Jet 55.38 57.05 58.76 60.52 62.33 64.20 66.13 68.12 70.16 72.27 74.43 76.66 78.97 81.32 83.77 83.77 83.77 83.77
ASA TA 2/02 CRJ -70 60.20 62.07 63.97 65.96 68.01 70.11 72.27 74.50 77.51 80.63 83.12 85.69 88.35 91.07 93.89 96.71 99.60 102.59
CMR Jun-01 CRJ -70 59.84 61.70 63.59 65.57 67.60 69.69 71.84 74.06 77.05 80.15 82.62 85.18 87.82 90.53 93.33 96.13 99.01 101.98
HOR Sep-01 63-75 Seat Jet 60.14 62.01 63.91 65.90 67.94 70.04 72.20 74.43 77.44 80.55 83.03 85.61 88.26 90.98 93.80 96.61 99.51 102.49
EGL Jan-02 60-70 SeatTurbojet 56.32 58.00 59.76 61.54 63.38 65.30 66.59 68.58 70.65 72.77 74.95 77.19 79.52 81.91 83.28 84.94 86.21 87.53
INDUSTRY AVERAGE: 58.38 60.17 62.00 63.90 65.85 67.87 69.81 71.94 74.56 77.27 79.63 82.07 84.58 87.16 89.61 91.63 93.62 95.67



FIRST OFFICERS
MSA Jun-01 All FO 19.28 24.40 26.79 29.18 30.05 30.05 30.05 30.05
ASA TA 2/02 CRJ -70 19.02 37.24 38.38 39.58 40.80 42.06 43.36 44.71
CMR Jun-01 CRJ-70 21.00 37.02 38.15 39.34 40.56 41.81 43.10 44.44
HOR Sep-01 63-75 Seat Jet 24.25 35.70 36.75 37.80 38.85 39.90 40.95 42.00
EGL Jan-02 All Turbojet 20.26 28.73 31.20 32.74 33.58 34.14 34.57 35.15
INDUSTRY AVERAGE: 20.76 32.62 34.25 35.73 36.77 37.59 38.41 39.27



HOR - Horizon represented by Teamsters


CURRENT MES 50-59 seat pay

Captains
MES Dec-00 50 - 59 Seats 50.07 51.60 53.17 54.77 56.43 58.11 59.54 61.36 63.24 65.15 67.09 69.12 71.20 73.35 73.35 73.35 73.35 73.35

FO's
MES Dec-00 50 - 59 Seats 20.47 27.42 30.59 31.90 32.85 33.62 34.07 34.55

Hourly Pay Rates on Regional Jet Equipment (as of March 1, 2002)
50 - 59 Seat Regional Jets Currently Operated by All Carriers in the Continental U.S.



Longevity Year:
A/L Effective Equipment 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18

CAPTAINS
ACO Feb-02 CRJ 55.47 57.19 58.96 60.79 62.67 64.60 66.60 68.66 70.78 72.98 75.23 77.55 79.96 82.43 84.98 87.52 90.15 90.15
ARW Aug-01 CRJ 54.94 56.65 58.39 60.21 62.06 63.98 65.96 68.00 70.10 72.28 74.51 76.81 79.19 81.64 84.16 86.69 86.69 86.69
ASA Sep-01 50 - 59 Seats 54.46 56.08 57.78 59.50 61.29 63.13 64.39 66.32 68.31 70.36 72.47 74.64 76.89 79.20 81.57 81.57 81.57 81.57
CAX Oct-01 50 - 59 Seats 51.60 53.14 54.75 56.38 58.08 59.62 61.02 62.85 64.73 66.67 68.67 70.73 72.86 75.05 76.31 77.83 79.00 80.19
CHA Nov-00 50 - 59 Seats 50.96 52.49 54.05 55.68 57.35 59.07 60.46 62.35 64.30 66.27 68.27 70.32 72.44 74.65 76.43 76.43 76.43 76.43
CMR Jun-01 CRJ 54.40 56.09 57.81 59.61 61.45 63.35 65.31 67.33 69.41 71.56 73.77 76.05 78.41 80.83 83.33 85.83 85.83 85.83
EGL Jan-02 50 - 59 Seats 53.52 55.11 56.78 58.47 60.23 62.03 63.28 65.17 67.12 69.13 71.22 73.35 75.56 77.83 79.14 80.71 81.92 83.16
EXA Nov-00 50 - 59 Seats 50.28 51.82 53.42 55.05 56.73 58.39 59.82 61.55 63.55 65.38 67.26 69.20 71.18 73.22 75.20 75.20 75.20 75.20
MES Dec-00 50 - 59 Seats 50.07 51.60 53.17 54.77 56.43 58.11 59.54 61.36 63.24 65.15 67.09 69.12 71.20 73.35 73.35 73.35 73.35 73.35
TSA Aug-01 ERJ 145 50.37 51.98 53.58 55.19 56.79 58.41 60.21 62.21 64.07 66.05 67.86 69.97 72.02 74.28 74.59 74.59 74.59 74.59
INDUSTRY AVERAGE: 52.61 54.22 55.87 57.57 59.31 61.07 62.66 64.58 66.56 68.58 70.63 72.77 74.97 77.25 78.91 79.97 80.47 80.72


FIRST OFFICERS
ACO Feb-02 CRJ 21.53 34.19 35.26 36.35 37.47 38.62 39.82 41.05
ARW Aug-01 CRJ 23.50 33.99 35.03 36.12 37.24 38.39 39.58 40.80
ASA Sep-01 50 - 59 Seats 19.02 33.65 34.67 35.70 36.77 37.88 38.63 38.63
CAX Oct-01 50 - 59 Seats 19.56 27.74 30.11 31.61 32.41 32.95 32.95 32.95
CHA Nov-00 All Jet 19.96 23.11 32.04 33.09 34.15 35.20 35.20 35.20
CMR Jun-01 CRJ 21.00 33.53 34.57 35.64 36.74 37.88 39.06 40.25
EGL Jan-02 50 - 59 Seats 20.26 28.73 31.20 32.74 33.58 34.14 34.57 35.15
EXA Nov-00 50 - 59 Seats 19.16 22.54 27.60 30.53 31.47 32.17 32.69 33.24
MES Dec-00 50 - 59 Seats 20.47 27.42 30.59 31.90 32.85 33.62 34.07 34.55
TSA Aug-01 ERJ 145 20.40 23.30 29.58 30.60 31.62 31.62 31.62 31.62
INDUSTRY AVERAGE: 20.49 28.82 32.06 33.43 34.43 35.25 35.82 36.34