Why no American operators of the BAE - 146?

[udaman]

It was 1 inch wider than the MD-80/DC-9

 

[PhatAJ2008]

It was 1 inch wider than the MD-80/DC-9

...Wow. Did many private operators or individuals buy any of them?

 

[xjhawk]

BAE, the only aircraft maker who can make an underpowered A/C with four engines. That said I am sure it will be my favorite aircraft I will ever fly for the airlines. It was soooooo nice

 

[BLing]

A few of them have made their way to Africa. I used to talk to ex Air Whiskey guys all the time on the ramp throughout Central Africa. Its a great airplane over there because they are cheap to get, bullet proof and the price of fuel means nothing to the airlines. They look sexy with the Congolese Flag painted on the tail ;-)

 

[propsarebest]

There is one (a -300) being converted into a firebomber too...

 

[Jetjockey]

Ok, do you know why it had 4 engines????

Because they could not fit 6!

Say what you want, I loved the AVR-146. Slow, but comfortable. My favorite was doing Mach .70 out of HPN in the flow west bound with NY ARTCC, always good fun.

 

[pilotpm]

4 fires held together by hydraulic leaks going backwards in a stiff headwind!:laugh:

 

[stlflyguy]

How could it be so slow with four engines?

Liken it to someone saying that their car has four wheel drive even though each wheel is driven by a Cox .049 .

stlflyguy

 

[whymeworry?]

I always wanted to fly the BAE-146. After a contract I did for Parc in the late 90s, I was returning to my airline whom I had taken leave from. Parc wanted me to keep working for them. They asked if there was any contract that I'd be interested in to keep me... offered me 747/ A340 type stuff, etc. I told them, I want to fly the Avro RJ. Huh? Yep, if ya' can't find me a gig on that plane then I'll just go back to my airline. And back I went. They weren't able to get me a job on one without time on type.

How is the cockpit on the 146? Looks comfortable.

 

[Jetjockey]

It was way more comfortable than a 737, or even a DC-9 as I recall. Of course they were brand new AVR-146s fresh from the factory.

 

[airplane wizard]

I heard a conversion is being worked on. removal of the 4 apu's and hanging 2 CFM 56's in place.

Didn't the proposed RJ-100 have only 2 engines IIRC?

 

[Fubijaakr]

The worst thing about it was the rain repellent was piped inside the cockpit.

 

[relief tube]

Why are there no American Operators of the BAE - 146? Is it a good airplane?

dude cant be serious.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

I always wanted to fly the BAE-146. After a contract I did for Parc in the late 90s, I was returning to my airline whom I had taken leave from. Parc wanted me to keep working for them. They asked if there was any contract that I'd be interested in to keep me... offered me 747/ A340 type stuff, etc. I told them, I want to fly the Avro RJ. Huh? Yep, if ya' can't find me a gig on that plane then I'll just go back to my airline. And back I went. They weren't able to get me a job on one without time on type.

How is the cockpit on the 146? Looks comfortable.

I first flew them in 05. They were very comfortable. The pay was atrocious thanks to the blended payrate we have.... But from a strict pilot perspective as long as the fadec and trp worked it was outstanding. leaps and bounds better than the CRJ's that replaced them.... other than in the fuel burn/speed category....
I tried to get PARC to use me to fly the Avro's back to Europe but got furloughed without enough time in type. Besides unfortunately they pretty much used only captain/captain crews for the flights.....

 

[ThreeGreens]

One of the only airplane that I know of, where you could fly 250kts to 5NM final. Awesome airplane to fly.

 

[Freebrd]

ASA operated them years ago. 4 or 5 I think, most had 88 seats, one had 100 seats. DAL scope allowed ASA to get up to 20 of them. Lasted at ASA a year or three I think.

 

[Golden Falcon]

PSA had them for a while..(the ORIGINAL PSA) that is in Cal..they disappeared when they got absorbed by USAir..just weren't fast enough i guess..and the Lycoming fans had some issues as well...it was nicknamed the "Smurf-jet" or the "Fisher-price" jet..