why is FDX posting pilot jobs?

[Purpledog]

I didn't start this arguement that continues to plague this forum. Stupidpilot did by saying that a 2000 hr fighter guy isn't as qualified as a 6000 hr civvie. What am I supposed to do? Would you want a member of your military to sit idly by while someone hurls stereotypical insults? Would you sit idly by if, out of the blue, I made a sweeping generalization that all 6000 hr civvies aren't as qualified? I think not. I agree that people on here sound horrible, myself included. Kooombya......

 

[stupidpilot]

Hey Purpledog, You didn't read my post very well did you? I am both a military pilot & civilian pilot. I just did a DC-10 transition and my sim partner, who flew fighters and had over 10k hours of flight time, well & I flew circles around him. And I am not that stellar of a pilot. I know many,many military pilots, some are better and some are worse than civilian pilots. The point is it is the individual, not where he comes from. But some companies roll out the red carpet for you guys and because you get hired with so little time you think you are better. Well you're not. Flying broken down, beat up, poorly maintained aircraft in hard IMC dodging bad weather so you can gain the type of time you need to get on to the next step is just as, if not more valid than the good training you receivedfree and got paid for it from Uncle Sam. Whereas many civilian pilots are deep in debt and leagues away from where you are in your career. So, who has had to sacrifice more and work harder for their career?

 

[b757driver]

Hey Purpledog, You didn't read my post very well did you? I am both a military pilot & civilian pilot. I just did a DC-10 transition and my sim partner, who flew fighters and had over 10k hours of flight time, well & I flew circles around him. And I am not that stellar of a pilot. I know many,many military pilots, some are better and some are worse than civilian pilots. The point is it is the individual, not where he comes from. But some companies roll out the red carpet for you guys and because you get hired with so little time you think you are better. Well you're not. Flying broken down, beat up, poorly maintained aircraft in hard IMC dodging bad weather so you can gain the type of time you need to get on to the next step is just as, if not more valid than the good training you receivedfree and got paid for it from Uncle Sam. Whereas many civilian pilots are deep in debt and leagues away from where you are in your career. So, who has had to sacrifice more and work harder for their career?

I'm with you, Stupid! I couldn't agree more with your comments. And like you, I have a military as well as civilian background. It's time to destroy the myth.........

 

[HoursHore]

We may not be better pilots, but we can sure network!

And thats the name of the game.

 

[Dumbluck]

2000 hrs of flying a 1900, several 7 legs a day for four days in a row, in uncontrolled airspace, no autopilot, dodge weather on your own, full procedure turns, or a dme arc to a localizer B/C all while keeping a eye on the FO who just came off OE and the biggest thing they've flown is a Cessna.

Yeah, mil. guys who were led by the hand had it rough. Who paid for your training, if you washed out, still had a job somewhere didn't you.

by the way, I did my time in the Navy didn't fly though, I have great respect for members of the military, regardless of their rate or rank.

Sorry, but anybody who thinks that their better than any and everybody, is just ignorant.civilian or military

 

[j41driver]

...KC-10 to an MD-11 is a lateral transition. Going from an RJ to an MD-11 or any Boeing is a huge leap

I've just done a transition from the CRJ to B717 and I can say that there was most certainly not a huge leap. Actually, it was barely a hop. Do you have personal experience to the contrary?

 

[j41driver]

It doesn't?? Let me get this straight. 52 weeks of 12 hours days learning to fly multiengine jets and then another 4-12 months learning another aircraft and how to employ it tactically does not make you a better pilot than any gomer flying a 172?

Perhaps you should re-read his post. He said being a military pilot doesn't automatically make you a better pilot. He's right. There are good military pilots and there are bad military pilots just like there are both good and bad civilian pilots.

 

[dtfl]

I've done both military and civilian flying. There are good pilots in both. Although I do think it's ridiculous to hire a military guy with 2000 hours or less thinking that he is as good as a civilian guy that has 6000+ hours. It doesn't matter where you've flown or in what conditions. Sometimes there is just no substitute for hours spent in the air. Flying tactically has nothing to do with flying boxes. Oh, and by the way our Air Force has had no real challenge from ADA after the first day of Desert Storm or Iraqi Freedom. So don't give me that dangerous flying crap! I flew to Baghdad many times. The most nervous I got is how pissed off the kids would get when we ran out of candy to give them!

whoa whoa whoa...... "Dont give me that dangerous flying crap?" Excuse me?
Let me explain something about flying THESE days. I flew Spec Ops..and I got shot at LESS than the airlifters are now that the war is "over". I had manpads and AAA shot at me EVERY other time I flew in Afghanistan...and these guys now (mainly in Iraq - ESPECIALLY into Baghdad - ask my squadron buds that were there) have to deal with the insurgents firing manpads, small arms and RPGs at them on a daily basis. It is dangerous flying. Maybe you just FORGOT.

And as far as the training being free? Last time I checked I gave them 10 years of my life and spent more than half in some rat infested craphole....flying over Somalia, Bosnia, Afghanistan and other countries I can't admit to. It's far from free. FAR from free. But we DID sign up for it...so I'm not bitching..just pointing out that every person that flew in the military then separated paid the military back....10 fold.

Out of curiousity - what did you fly?

 

[stupidpilot]

That is true dfl. You did have to give time some back. I flew CH47D's for 18 years. Didi my last tour in Iraq. Decided my family needed me more. Never once got shot at. Only got a missile launch light once. I chalked it up to old equipment. Yes its true alot of the rotor jockeys are getting shot at. But most of the fixed wing guys stay above the max alt of the manpads.

 

[stupidpilot]

of course thats hard to do on approach and departure. But I cede your point.