why is FDX posting pilot jobs?

[uscpilot]

I swore not to respond do this mil vs. civ BS anymore but I can't help it.


= autopilot 5000 hrs, pilot 1000 maybe.

2000 hr fighter guy = about 2000 hand flown sorties. Oh, and by the way, we do the exact same thing you great civvies do, takeoff & land. However, we also do a bunch of hard stuff in between. If you want to compare the two to each other compare the number of landings you flew at the controls.

What is your point? Military guys dont use autopilots? Give me a break. I would wager my salary that civilian pilots (dont know about military) especilly those with less than 5000 hrs have the majority of their flight time without an autopilot. Of my 4500 hrs about 1200 or so are with an autopilot.
Anyway, so what? The plane does not make decisions for you. You still gain valuable flight experience while flying with an a/p. Good stick skills by themselves do not make a good pilot.
Not trying to further this pissing contest but go deal with icing dodging thunderstorms in a twin in Texas and the SE for two years. I think you would agree that that is also difficult.
WDR11
PS Sorry for contributing for the contenued hyjacking of this thread, but I could not leave this alone.

 

[Motive Flow]

Is Purpledog serious? If so, then Fedex should just hire fighter guys. Those heavy drivers have it way too easy.

Bottom line: 1000 - 2000 hrs turbine PIC (civ or mil) = plenty of day to day judgement calls and maybe an emergency/abnormality or two. At about that time, both military and civilian candidates have more than a few years of flying for a living. They're both equally qualified. The only difference is the military guy probably has a few more buddies at Fedex.

Now what was the original topic?

 

[XJETDriver]

I disagree with your opinion but respect it. If I was hiring I would select those proven in combat whether it is a C-17 pilot flying into Baghdad or a bombdropping fighter pilot over some guy with 3000 hours flying RJs from Des Moines and Chicago. No slam on the civilian guy because i know how hard they work to gain experience. But anyone who has safely flown an airplane under fire has earned a chance to interview at an airline.

Who cares about the combat flying. Are you going to be flying a MD-11, like a C-130 at 250Ft AGL at night with no lights on and dropping heavies out the back?? Or are you going to be flying a MD-11 from IAH to EWR?? Just like the 3K hour RJ pilot has been doing. And I bet that the C-130 pilot has 1/2 the time the RJ pilot has. The reason I know, b/c Iam talking about my brother. He is here at XJT and is with the 189th Airlift Wing

 

[CaptainMark]

If you get the interview..you are qualified! reguardless of background...end of story

 

[MemTrash]

FedEx interviews the most qualified candidates, 'nuf said. Incidently my interview group was 50/50 mil/civ. One civvie didn't make it b/c he showed up looking like Jimmy Buffet going to a luau and blew thru an altitude by 500' on the sim. Just my speculation on why he didn't get invited to the show.

Guys you have it all wrong at FedEx. It doesn't matter what your background is, it does matter what the background is of the guys doing the hiring.
When I got hired it was John Hunt (civilian guy) and he hired a lot of US. Then it was Dexter Tutor (nightmare) you had to be a military guy with a PHD to get hired. There is no way I would have been hired while he was doing the calling.
Now the guys are mostly military so guess what... mostly military are getting hired. If I am ever the guy making the calls the civilian guys will be back in (snowball chance in hell) because I know what they have been through and I'd want a guy that flew around in his past just like he will at FedEx. If FedEx planes ever start getting shot at, well then I'd go back to the military guys.

 

[CaptainMark]

man...watch out...GI Joe is gonna come looking for you..

 

[Purpledog]

Military guys dont use autopilots? Give me a break

Guess what dipsh*t. Mil fighters don't have autopilots or FMS. At least none of the ones I flew. Nice try though.

 

[Marko Ramius]

Guess what dipsh*t. Mil fighters don't have autopilots or FMS. At least none of the ones I flew. Nice try though.

Guess what, alot of civilians fly airplanes that don't have those things as well. Now would that make you a dipsh*t as well?

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Guess what dipsh*t. Mil fighters don't have autopilots or FMS. At least none of the ones I flew. Nice try though.

Do Md11s have autopilots? how about autoland?

 

[uscpilot]

Guess what dipsh*t. Mil fighters don't have autopilots or FMS. At least none of the ones I flew. Nice try though.

For someone who has been in the military you sure have thin skin. Resorting to name calling, indirectly admitting that you lost your argument. You ran out of your baseless opinions and heresay so you had to resort to name calling. You make a persuasive point, but hows this?
So you never had an a/p, good for you. Want a cookie?
I made the same generalization you made. You said that 80% of a civilian's flight hours would be on an autopilot. I said that plenty military flight hours would be on an a/p (like you I neglected to specify certian a/c). I cited myself as an example of someone who would have 80% or more without an a/p. Unlike you I didnt call you a dipsh*t.
If your plane did not have an a/p or FMS, then how are you more qualified to fly for Fedex (I assume that all their a/c have an a/p and FMS) than a civilian candidate with 5000+ hrs in an RJ? How does flying a fighter translate to flying a heavy transport aircraft?
I think that most of the people on this board are probably not as bad as they come across. I know that Im not. Unfortunatly people say indefensable things like 80% of civilian's flight time is on autopilots. Then unstead of admitting they are wrong they dig themselves a hole.
WDR11
PS I am sure that you are a nice guy and a good crewmember, but you come across as the stereotypical premadonna military fighter pilot.