Why I'm Still a NO for the AirTran TA?

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

Lear this vote is for you - NOO!!!!-:beer:

 

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

up to 83% voted now.

 

[AFcitrus]

I disagree

I would rather have the TA be ratified than it be voted down by a 48 to 52%. If it goes down by a small margin we are gonna get another piece of ******************** handed to us next year. We are pretty much a rock in a hard place.

I know where you are coming from with this statement but I disagree. What we have now is infinitely better than TA2. TA2 meets the bar in only one of the 4 major areas that Wilson Polling showed the pilots want:

More Compensation - NO - Pay increases are less than Cost of Living increases and further reduced by reserve pay/work rule changes. Furthermore their is no payback for the cost of living the company has cost us the last 2.5 years of lolly-gagging around and not getting serious about a contract. (they had no incentive until the bankers needed some labor stability for loans on mergers/buyouts)

Lower Health Care costs- NO - Health care will actually increase during the duration of this new TA. Additionally, TA2 takes away thousands of dollars worth of emergency sick bank in the event you suffer a sickness/injury that takes you out for a month or two.

Quality of Life improvements - NO - I can't find any improvements but there are several areas that are declines. RR after reserve assignment, linesholders can get 5 hour RR at outstation waiting for last DH home, no more build-up lines (on reserve longer), and the list goes on.

Retirement - YES - this is the only area that I see improvements in. Unfortunately these improvements are way offset by MASSIVE losses in other areas.

Yes, I think it would be best if this PIG went down in flames. But I would still be happier to see it defeated by 1% than to live under this concessionary TA for the next 7 years. If you haven't voted NO yet, please do so in the next 57 minutes. If you have voted Yes, realize that this TA will be defeated with or without your NO vote. You still have 55 minutes to send the company a message of solidarity it needs to hear. And if you are planning on voting Yes regardless of what I've just said - don't vote for another 60 minutes.

Have a nice day. VOTE NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[PRINCE AKEEM]

Prince Akeem... What are your thoughts? Are you one of those newbie Yes men that all these bold senior (7yr. Ahem...) Capt's are talking about?

"Yes," is the answer to the question of whether I appreciate my job and am happy to be at AirTran. With that being said, I plan on a long career here and who knows, this may be my final destination. Therefore I voted NO about 3 weeks ago, due to the fact that I want 'to do it right.' With a much longer upgrade ahead of me and the fact that once I finish this reserve period, the next one will be much longer, who in their right mind would vote these rules in?! Every week I fly with an average of 3 CA's and my talley seems to be 75% "NO." I always thank them for taking care of us FO's and for seeing 'the bigger picture.' I sent out my own little 'get out the vote' text to the 30 FL #'s that I have 2 weeks ago and recieved all NO replys. Of the 20 or so FO's that I personally know all our united in voting NO as we should be. I hope this answers any ?'s as to where Akeem stands!
Quote from Lt.Col. Slade (Scent of a Women): "The boy's character is STRONG!!!"

 

[gearup5]

i predict 74% No

 

[PCL_128]

i predict 74% No

I'm not quite as optimistic. I predict 59% NO, making it difficult to have any leverage going forward.

 

[meanstreak]

It's 12:22. Why don't we know yet? 83%, truly pathetic. Anyway of listing names of people who didn't vote. just kidding.

 

[CarRamRod]

It's offical

With 87% of the eligible pilots voting the Tentative Agreement has failed by a margin of 61.37% to 38.63%

Enough Said!....Lets move on and hire Lear70 as our negotiation leader. He deserves the pay more than the last schlup that was paid very well and didn't do scheit. I just whish we had 100% voting instead of just approx 83%. Is there any way to identify those who just didn't give a crap, and decided that they did not need to vote and kick them out. Or at least post their names so they can be heard from. I think it is insane that anyone within this pilot group that did not vote is a coward and should be held accountable for their inactions.........Pass the TA and give US the contract that we deserve, and give the non voters the POS TA2 -20%. Maybe that would wake them up........

I'm just glad it went down. Even by a small margin....Keep the Faith!