Why did anyone come work for CAL??

[Ex737Driver]

I worked for CAL for a year and left. Worst employer ever.
Financial position is a big question with such assets to liabilities ratio.
It's hard to improve the place when it never attracted and kept good people. Well, only may be in LA days and 2005-2007.

Where did you go? Just curious.

 

[SFR]

I realized something today at work. Most people do not come on here. I think it is a few, and it just happens to be the few that complain.

It is still fun though...hehehe.

 

[Dewey Oxberger]

So Mr. SFR, what are your hopes and expectations for Contract '08? And also, you never answered my question from another thread. You enjoy the fact that you spend most of your time at home not flying. So why should you be getting paid $10,000 a year less to stay home than your bankrupt contemporaries at Delta? And since you don't seem to be aware of how substandard our contract is, we make more than $20,000 a year less than DAL on the 757 for years 1-3!

 

[contrail67]

I realized something today at work. Most people do not come on here. I think it is a few, and it just happens to be the few that complain.

It is still fun though...hehehe.

Most on here have not a clue about the topics they claim their knowledge on.

You can type anything you want....most that post negative things are the people who failed the interview and this is their only recourse....so sad.

 

[SFR]

So Mr. SFR, what are your hopes and expectations for Contract '08? And also, you never answered my question from another thread. You enjoy the fact that you spend most of your time at home not flying. So why should you be getting paid $10,000 a year less to stay home than your bankrupt contemporaries at Delta? And since you don't seem to be aware of how substandard our contract is, we make more than $20,000 a year less than DAL on the 757 for years 1-3!

Why didn't you go to DAL? Didn't you see the payrates before you came here?

Also, you should have asked CAL that in the interview, I bet you didn't... hehe..


LIke I said before, I don't like DAL's reserve system. You have to fly.

 

[Dewey Oxberger]

One other thing for Mr. SFR... 4th year blended rate on the 756 is $90/hr, right? At a reserve guarantee of 76 hours, that makes roughly $82,000/yr income. Converting Trips For Pay to $/hr, a 4th year pilot at SWA makes about $108/hr, equating to approximately $103,000/yr with a 79 hr (90 TFP) reserve guarantee. Do you really believe you are worth that much less than a Southwest pilot? That you should be paid $20,000 a year less to potentially fly high yield widebody flights to Amsterdam, Sao Paolo or Buenos Aries than a low cost carrier pilot at the same longevity gets to do milk runs to Lubbock or Midland (or stay at home)?

 

[Dewey Oxberger]

I didn't go to DAL because:

A. I didn't have a connection there.
B. Driving from Jersey/PA to JFK sucks!

You still haven't answered why you believe you are inferior to or not as deserving of a decent contract as a pilot at DAL, AAL, or SWA. I didn't come to CAL because of what it was. I came here because of the great potential of what it could be with a litle pilot backbone and unity! Are you on board?

 

[Dewey Oxberger]

Well, unfortunately as a lineholder I now have to go to the airport and fly home to EWR. I look forward to seeing your answer to my question when I log on again tomorrow. Cheers!

 

[Herkdrv]

One other thing for Mr. SFR... 4th year blended rate on the 756 is $90/hr, right? At a reserve guarantee of 76 hours, that makes roughly $82,000/yr income. Converting Trips For Pay to $/hr, a 4th year pilot at SWA makes about $108/hr, equating to approximately $103,000/yr with a 79 hr (90 TFP) reserve guarantee. Do you really believe you are worth that much less than a Southwest pilot? That you should be paid $20,000 a year less to potentially fly high yield widebody flights to Amsterdam, Sao Paolo or Buenos Aries than a low cost carrier pilot at the same longevity gets to do milk runs to Lubbock or Midland (or stay at home)?

Milk runs??? I had no idea that flying one leg with relief pilots and scratching your hairy beanbag for 8 hours was that much harder than a 6 leg day battling Texas t-storms.

 

[Dewey Oxberger]

Sorry, no offense meant to the pilots of SWA or the type of flying they do. I was just trying to illustrate how much less CAL pilots are paid to do flying that generates much higher revenue and potential profit.

 

[Herkdrv]

Sorry, no offense meant to the pilots of SWA or the type of flying they do. I was just trying to illustrate how much less CAL pilots are paid to do flying that generates much higher revenue and potential profit.

None taken. Lots of buds over at CAL and wish you guys the very best on your next contract. :beer: