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Not a bad guess.

However,

What would be Delta's logic in placing more 70s and 90s with ASA? I'm not certain that ASA would be all that much cheaper than Comair, and I doubt that ASA would be able to consistently operate them 'better' (however that would be judged) than Comair; why would this happen?

Where/why would United need more 50 seat lift? I thought the 50 seater was on its way out...

Delta's logic if this happened would be to get rid of more 50 seaters with another 2-1 deal. That's the only reason I'd see them doing it.

Geez dude, easy! I don't think he said he wished or hoped that would happen, and I certainly didn't detect any glee from his post. Seemed to me he was simply conjecturing what may be happening. I personally haven't heard about ASA getting anything from Comair - and I am 100% positive that not ONE SINGLE ASA pilot wants to take anything from Comair!

People are just having a conversation about what is happening these days. I'm sure 777 didn't mean to p!ss you guys off.

Thanks for putting that out there. My statement was just a hypothetical guess of why the original poster's rumor may happen.

And that has to do with our contract with DAL and min. block hours in the agreement.

You seem to be more in the loop of things. I'm a little confused since the email said it was an increase of flying due to more demand then originally thought by Delta.
 
I hear a lot about people complaining about how there is undercutting and a desire to progress one's career at any cost. Isn't that the core of capatilism? Isn't it by definition a system based on competition? Competition at any cost? Wall Street is the core of our financial system and there is no greater place of bloodshed outside of war than our financial system. Go for the throat, close the deal, and cash the check. Most people have some kind of stock holdings. Even your basic 401k is a mutual fund of stock, bonds, and securities. The only way to grow money is based on this. Pilots are a labor group. I hear all the time how we should stick together and not let companies do what they do which is try to make money at any cost. Yet, do most people have any idea what stocks there 401k or mutual fund money is invested in? Do they know the companies? The banks and drug companies which are as unethical is it gets but we all hold some kind of stock in them hoping to make some money. What about foreign investment? What about big US companies that have a good portion of their holdings in overseas factories where labor is basically slave. It is terrible when one company suffers for any reason and the labor group has their lives changed for the worse. Pilots are particularly at risk because it is a special skill set that does not transfer well to other vocations. Unless one has a side company or a very well off spouse then they have let their passion for flying become their vocational padded cell. When you add the pros and cons of a seniority system then you increase the risk visibility to a livelyhood. The fact is that in order for some companies to grow and achieve and make for better opportunities for the labor to benefit another company must suffer. Capitalism. The worker of the world unite rhetoric is what they screamed in the 1917 revolution. Socialism/Communism. So, which is it? Which system do we want? Answer... whichever helps ME. That is our true nature. Me-ism. The junior guys complain because their heads are always on the chopping block and the senior guys tell them to be quiet and stop complaining as they hold on to what they have. How many junior people would truly be diffierent in the other's shoes and vice versa. Companies like RAH are a cancer to the industry because they have questionable ethical practices. They worm around scope clauses and they pay bad. If anyone was making tons of money from that company or benefitting in some way would they complain and scream for change? The other RJ pukes hate them because they lose flying and jobs etc because of them but most would work for them if given a chance. Most people work at RJ companies to get to a better job at some kind of branded flying major. They give up good seniority at a bad company for bad seniority at a good company and hope to stay. It is a gamble like buying stock. Capitalism. As Captains on a puke jet they want more flying for better schedules, advancement, and job security once at a major they want to see less flying given to the RJ puke company for better schedules, advancement, and job security. Unions are anti-capitalism. They are idealogically closer to socialism/communism. I am just ranting. Here is a question. How many pilots bought into oil futures during the meteoric rise?
 
I hear a lot about people complaining about how there is undercutting and a desire to progress one's career at any cost. Isn't that the core of capatilism? Isn't it by definition a system based on competition? Competition at any cost? Wall Street is the core of our financial system and there is no greater place of bloodshed outside of war than our financial system. Go for the throat, close the deal, and cash the check. Most people have some kind of stock holdings. Even your basic 401k is a mutual fund of stock, bonds, and securities. The only way to grow money is based on this. Pilots are a labor group. I hear all the time how we should stick together and not let companies do what they do which is try to make money at any cost. Yet, do most people have any idea what stocks there 401k or mutual fund money is invested in? Do they know the companies? The banks and drug companies which are as unethical is it gets but we all hold some kind of stock in them hoping to make some money. What about foreign investment? What about big US companies that have a good portion of their holdings in overseas factories where labor is basically slave. It is terrible when one company suffers for any reason and the labor group has their lives changed for the worse. Pilots are particularly at risk because it is a special skill set that does not transfer well to other vocations. Unless one has a side company or a very well off spouse then they have let their passion for flying become their vocational padded cell. When you add the pros and cons of a seniority system then you increase the risk visibility to a livelyhood. The fact is that in order for some companies to grow and achieve and make for better opportunities for the labor to benefit another company must suffer. Capitalism. The worker of the world unite rhetoric is what they screamed in the 1917 revolution. Socialism/Communism. So, which is it? Which system do we want? Answer... whichever helps ME. That is our true nature. Me-ism. The junior guys complain because their heads are always on the chopping block and the senior guys tell them to be quiet and stop complaining as they hold on to what they have. How many junior people would truly be diffierent in the other's shoes and vice versa. Companies like RAH are a cancer to the industry because they have questionable ethical practices. They worm around scope clauses and they pay bad. If anyone was making tons of money from that company or benefitting in some way would they complain and scream for change? The other RJ pukes hate them because they lose flying and jobs etc because of them but most would work for them if given a chance. Most people work at RJ companies to get to a better job at some kind of branded flying major. They give up good seniority at a bad company for bad seniority at a good company and hope to stay. It is a gamble like buying stock. Capitalism. As Captains on a puke jet they want more flying for better schedules, advancement, and job security once at a major they want to see less flying given to the RJ puke company for better schedules, advancement, and job security. Unions are anti-capitalism. They are idealogically closer to socialism/communism. I am just ranting. Here is a question. How many pilots bought into oil futures during the meteoric rise?


You could have saved yourself a lot time and just wrote "I heart Mesa"..
 
I hear a lot about people complaining about how there is undercutting and a desire to progress one's career at any cost. Isn't that the core of capatilism? Isn't it by definition a system based on competition? Competition at any cost? Wall Street is the core of our financial system and there is no greater place of bloodshed outside of war than our financial system. Go for the throat, close the deal, and cash the check. Most people have some kind of stock holdings. Even your basic 401k is a mutual fund of stock, bonds, and securities. The only way to grow money is based on this. Pilots are a labor group. I hear all the time how we should stick together and not let companies do what they do which is try to make money at any cost. Yet, do most people have any idea what stocks there 401k or mutual fund money is invested in? Do they know the companies? The banks and drug companies which are as unethical is it gets but we all hold some kind of stock in them hoping to make some money. What about foreign investment? What about big US companies that have a good portion of their holdings in overseas factories where labor is basically slave. It is terrible when one company suffers for any reason and the labor group has their lives changed for the worse. Pilots are particularly at risk because it is a special skill set that does not transfer well to other vocations. Unless one has a side company or a very well off spouse then they have let their passion for flying become their vocational padded cell. When you add the pros and cons of a seniority system then you increase the risk visibility to a livelyhood. The fact is that in order for some companies to grow and achieve and make for better opportunities for the labor to benefit another company must suffer. Capitalism. The worker of the world unite rhetoric is what they screamed in the 1917 revolution. Socialism/Communism. So, which is it? Which system do we want? Answer... whichever helps ME. That is our true nature. Me-ism. The junior guys complain because their heads are always on the chopping block and the senior guys tell them to be quiet and stop complaining as they hold on to what they have. How many junior people would truly be diffierent in the other's shoes and vice versa. Companies like RAH are a cancer to the industry because they have questionable ethical practices. They worm around scope clauses and they pay bad. If anyone was making tons of money from that company or benefitting in some way would they complain and scream for change? The other RJ pukes hate them because they lose flying and jobs etc because of them but most would work for them if given a chance. Most people work at RJ companies to get to a better job at some kind of branded flying major. They give up good seniority at a bad company for bad seniority at a good company and hope to stay. It is a gamble like buying stock. Capitalism. As Captains on a puke jet they want more flying for better schedules, advancement, and job security once at a major they want to see less flying given to the RJ puke company for better schedules, advancement, and job security. Unions are anti-capitalism. They are idealogically closer to socialism/communism. I am just ranting. Here is a question. How many pilots bought into oil futures during the meteoric rise?

Seems like the scumbags are the major airlines (that most want to work for) that encourage this behavior for their benefit. RAH, MESA...etc have questionable ethical practices....try UAL, DAL, USairways...
 
That Comair will hate ASA at year end. That is what they are saying at RGT this week. (SH), I had a BTR management mechanic on the jump seat last week, tell me that at night they are inspecting Comair 70's and 900's and that they are suppose to come to us. I hope this is not true. Hang in there Comair, but he said it has something to do with the LEX new ruling..any info.......
Seems like someones from your company likes to start this rumor about twice a year since we were forced into BK. Please don't saqy hang in there we can read the gloating. Starting to get sick of ASA pilots attitudes.
 
Seems like someones from your company likes to start this rumor about twice a year since we were forced into BK. Please don't saqy hang in there we can read the gloating. Starting to get sick of ASA pilots attitudes.

Pretty funny right there- I've been tired of Comair's for a while..............
 
You seem to be more in the loop of things. I'm a little confused since the email said it was an increase of flying due to more demand then originally thought by Delta.

The term "demand" could also mean that the subcontractor is "demanding" that the contract that the parties signed be honored.
 
Seems like someones from your company likes to start this rumor about twice a year since we were forced into BK. Please don't saqy hang in there we can read the gloating. Starting to get sick of ASA pilots attitudes.

So are a large number of ASA pilots too!
 
Earlier someone stated that all the Lexington crash lawsuits have been resolved. I flew with a Lexington native last week that stated there is still one lawsuit left. A spouse did not settle and is going for the jugular. Civil suit to follow. Any truth to this?
 
There is still one open case against Comair. It's going to a jury trial in December. No ASA mechanic has looked at any Comair 700/900 aircraft. Only Comair a/c they're looking at is either what they got in the last RFP or from the seat they're sitting in while nonreving!
Gotta love mechanic rumors and how fas tthey spread! Almost as fast as chief pilot/training department rumors!:laugh:
 
Seems like someones from your company likes to start this rumor about twice a year since we were forced into BK. Please don't saqy hang in there we can read the gloating. Starting to get sick of ASA pilots attitudes.

ASA pilots are the shiznit now since they got their awesome contract. Everyone else is pond scum to them.

Gotta love, ALPA pilots taking other ALPA pilots flying. Glad ALPA is part of the whipsaw train, allowing other pilots to undercut other pilots.
 
OK. I'm probably about the last person to have any idea about what Delta plans to do with Comair.

However, Comair was ramping up to hire 300 new pilots 16 months ago. The brakes were suddenly applied and the furloughs announced at the same time that Mesa won the injunction to prevent Delta from canceling Mesa's contract. Coincidence? I don't think so.

We all know that Comair doesn't take a pi$$ without Delta's permission. Someone told the recruiting department to start hiring a buttload of pilots based on some word from Delta.

In June of 2008, delta had many options for regional lift. They chose Comair for a reason. They also halted Comair for a reason. That reason is because it is easier to reduce flying for Comair than any of the other contractors.

At this time, more than ever, it all comes down to performance and cost.

COST: Comair was always getting beat up on the cost issue because they have a more senior workforce and therefore more pilots near the top of the pay scale. I wonder if the current stagnation at all regionals will result in a higher longevity level for other regional tha Comair competes against. Could level the playing field for Comair costwise.

PERFORMANCE: I don't know how Comair compares right now but if I was there I would want to be turning out some good performance numbers.

just my $0.02 worth.
 

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