Who's door can I beat down.....

[mcjohn]

to try and find an opportunity for a 500 hour total timer? The only thing I've heard of in the cargo world is the training captain positions for AMF at Burbank. I must work for a company. Lack of benefits is not really an option b/c of my wife.

Are there any other places (preferably in the S.E.) that hire instructors? I'm such a dork that I downloaded the entire training curriculum from austincollins.com (FLX's training manager) to prep for my CFII checkride.
They told me to contact only when I get close to 135 mins.

Please help. Thanks.

 

[Metro752]

ATP will guarantee you an interview for $24995

 

[PC12Cowboy]

ATP will guarantee you an interview for $24995
OUCH!!!!

 

[Metro752]

(it's just a jab at mcdonald)

 

[mcjohn]

Cargo guys. Part 135. I'm curious if there are opportunities doing anything for a 135 company before one has the 135 IFR mins. Ameriflight is the only one that I've heard of. I need to work for a company. Dispatch, ground training, office work....I don't care. I just need something stable with benefits. Not looking for great pay. Just want to get a foot in the door.

Funny you keep hounding me about ATP Metro. I'm probably going to get my CFII and MEI there. (If I can sell my house for a little profit.)

 

[mcjohn]

ATP will guarantee you an interview for $24995

Mcjohn can guarantee himself an interview by picking up the phone and sending out resumes.

 

[EatSleepFly]

Well, did you try AMF?

 

[l-ron]

try air cargo carriers

 

[Morettis]

Sun Western Flyers in Yuma, AZ hires at 500 for 135 VFR Cargo. We just hired two guys w/ about 500.

 

[RefugePilot]

suck it ip and flight instruct

Cargo guys. Part 135. I'm curious if there are opportunities doing anything for a 135 company before one has the 135 IFR mins. Ameriflight is the only one that I've heard of. I need to work for a company. Dispatch, ground training, office work....I don't care. I just need something stable with benefits. Not looking for great pay. Just want to get a foot in the door.

Funny you keep hounding me about ATP Metro. I'm probably going to get my CFII and MEI there. (If I can sell my house for a little profit.)

Suck it up and flight instruct. Go to a school that will let you fly a lot of hours and you will be higherable in under a year. Then you can get one of those jobs you are looking for with benefits and start making progress in your career. If you are working at a flight school it should be very cheap to get your next ratings.

If you get a job for a 135 as a dispatcher or plane washer, you have your foot in the door but you are not getting any hours, so whats the use of having a foot in the door, except making it easier for the pilots with the hours to drop off their resume.

If you absolutly need insurance get a job outside of aviation, that has benefits, and a flexible schedule, so you can flight instruct in your free time. I waited tables to pay for my flight education and to support my flight instructing career.

The only thing more important than hours in getting hired is some one to hand your resume to the right person. It wont do you any good though, if you are not higherable.

 

[mcjohn]

Sun Western Flyers in Yuma, AZ hires at 500 for 135 VFR Cargo. We just hired two guys w/ about 500.

Thankyou kindly Morretis. That's exactly what I was looking for.

Suck it up and flight instruct. Go to a school that will let you fly a lot of hours and you will be higherable in under a year. Then you can get one of those jobs you are looking for with benefits and start making progress in your career. If you are working at a flight school it should be very cheap to get your next ratings.

If you get a job for a 135 as a dispatcher or plane washer, you have your foot in the door but you are not getting any hours, so whats the use of having a foot in the door, except making it easier for the pilots with the hours to drop off their resume.

If you absolutly need insurance get a job outside of aviation, that has benefits, and a flexible schedule, so you can flight instruct in your free time. I waited tables to pay for my flight education and to support my flight instructing career

This is exactly how I got myself into the bad situation I'm in now. Good advice but it just didn't work out too well for me. I work 2 days a week at a hotel to keep benefits and pursue flight instructing 5 days a week. We are totally dead. What few students I have flake out and cancel a lot and don't want to fly often. I find myself sitting in the office all day answering the phone for free and selling pilot supplies. Time to leave town but I really don't want to suffer this way anymore. I just want to work full time and start flying again. I'd rather tow banners now considering what I've been through. Thanks for the input Refuge Pilot. All is appreciated.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Move to FL or somewhere in the NE where there is more flight training going on.

Ive hear the Bay Area/or just south of it, in CA has a lot of wealthy folks who need ways to spend thier money on leisurely things. There are also a LOT of small GA airports in the area too. Look at a sectional for the area, you'll see what I mean.

You could easily be a freelance at 35/hr. and build a decent student base.

 

[wheelsup]

If you can't find a cargo gig, www.flightcareers.com makes a good gig for a CFI looking to build a ton of time in 12 months. I flew just under 1000 hours there in 11.5 months, 280 multi. Good pay, >$30k if you want to work, full benefits and nonrev benefits on mesa/HP (I guess US now). But you gotta move to farmington for a year.

 

[Capt1124]

The instructing business is extremely rough. The only way I could make it work was working for big schools where they provide you with students. I don't think American Flyers has benefits, maybe FS does. I haven't been at that end of the industry for a long time but it would be much much easier to geta job with 1220 hours than 500, so I would suggest looking for a quality instructing job as well as a cargo job.

 

[countbat]

Try to get a job at FS in Vero Beach as CFI. Good benefits and a lot of flying time. Acrobatics that is.