Who is sick of TSA security crew harassment

[FR8mastr]

You missed the whole point, I ... Ahh, forget it. I dont have the time.

 

[Scapegoat]

I know that I feel like a dog having to wear these ID's on my neck all day. And now that I think about it, they do me no good at all. I think I remember getting fingerprinted for both my SIDA and my company ID. I also think that the FBI cleared my prints so that I could have those ID's.
But apparently they do no good because when I am not at my home airport, I still get to go thru TSA security like everyone else. Tell me that is not absolutly crazy.

Great topic by they way!

 

[DetoXJ]

FR8mastr, What point did I miss? The only point you tried to make was your unfactual one of how "amazed you are that they, TSA, are making as much or more than half the pilots" I don't know what kind of freight outfit you work for but I got news for you, MOST if not all TSA screeners are making much LESS $$ than regional airline pilots INCLUDING 1st year FO's. It just goes to show that your ramblings have no merit being that you "don't have the time" to support your invalid assumptions.

 

[mamba20]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. TSA is the biggest joke and the biggest waste of money since Regans Star Wars program.

 

[FR8mastr]

Look you are obviously the type of guy that thinks he knows everything so just for the satisfaction of proving you wrong I will take the time now. I dont fly freight anymore, that used to pay me more than I make now. 2nd my brother in law is just now starting at the TSA in NC at $17 an hour!!! That at 40 hours per week comes out to $35,360 plus the government benefits that go with it. A first year regional pilot will make around $22 an hour with a 75 hour guarentee that comes to 19,800 per year plus maybe 4000 in per diem that is a total of $23800. 23,800 is less than 35,360. So maybe you are the one that should be checking the facts.

 

[DetoXJ]

Wrong again FR8mastr. I just called my buddy who works for the TSA. He got a good chuckle to hear that there are a lot of pilots out there who think that TSA screeners makes that much money. He said your claim that TSA screeners start out at 35K per year was foolish. He said thanks for the laugh.

 

[FR8mastr]

DetoXJ this is from the TSA web site, you might want to look at it and call your laughing friend. Even the min. pay is the same as a regional FO. Note that does not include locality pay. Care to continue?
Profile
Job Field 0019-Screener
Locations IL-Chicago-ORD - O'Hare
Schedule Full-time
Employee Status (Regular refers to Permanent) Regular


Additional Information
Opening Date November 23, 2004
Closing Date March 17, 2005


Pay Band (Does not include locality pay) D - Minimum $23,600 - Maximum $35,400

 

[vectors2final]

wow... this was zero to pissing contest in 2 pages... is that record?

 

[210tothemarker]

Here you go


As a Transportation Security Screener:

You will perform a variety of duties related to providing security and protection of air travelers, airports and aircraft. You will be responsible for identifying dangerous objects in baggage, cargo and/or on passengers; and preventing those objects from being transported onto aircraft. You are required to perform various tasks such as: wanding, pat down searches, operation of x-ray machines, lifting of baggage (up to 70 pounds), and screening and ticket review using electronic and imaging equipment. As a Transportation Security Screener, you may perform passenger screening, baggage screening or both. You are expected to perform these duties in a courteous and professional manner.

• Continuously and effectively interact with the public, giving directions and responding to inquiries in a reasonable tone and manner.
• Maintain focus and awareness within an environment containing numerous distractions, people, and noise.
• Stand and remain standing for periods up to 3 hours without sitting.
• Lift and/or assist another individual to lift (from the ground) an object weighing 70 pounds.
• Work within a stressful environment, which includes noise from alarms, machinery, and people, distractions, time pressure, disruptive and angry passengers, and the requirement to identify and locate potentially life-threatening devices and devices intended on creating massive destruction.
• Make effective decisions in both crisis and routine situations.

Work Schedule: Part-time (20-32) hours per week. Part-time work hours for this position consists of shift-work on any day from Sunday through Saturday which may include irregular hours, nights and week-end shifts, changing shifts, and split shifts. Specific work schedules will be determined by the airport.









Pay Band (Does not include locality pay)



D - Minimum $23,600 - Maximum $35,400

 

[Cardinal]

I just think of the millions of dollars Rockport spent switching over to plastic shanks in their shoes insted of the metal ones. Imagine all the sweatshop workers that had to be retrained, contracts adjusted, etc. And after this switch over is complete, TSA immediately decides that you have to take your shoes off anyway.

What wears shoulder boards, latex gloves, and carries a big probe?
- An anal pirate, obviously.

 

[dispatchguy]

Lord knows I hate the TSA like the next guy, for the sight of them makes my blood boil, but when I went thru A concourse security this morning at STL, they were actually somewhat cool with me, and didnt give me the special anal-probe reserved for all airline employees.

 

[platinumclub]

Anal probes have been recalled to penetrate deeper, u just got lucky today, had nothing to do with them being cool.

 

[jetnut]

Actually thats funny because I have had numerous problems with a specific supervisor in STL that didn't know his job and asked me to E-mail his superiors because he was unsure... And he still has his job Also I am sick on jumpseating out of uniform and airports like LGA STL DTW where you have to exit security and go back through security and take off your shoes when you didn't have to the first time through and you just flew in. A black shoe with a one inch heel is there discretion if we have to take it off or not. I think I am old enough to decide if my shoes which go through security 20 times a month would beep or not. TSA people need to learn what the fu*K the difference is bewteen a sole and a heel.


My answer to this is if they want it off let's make there job harder by taking the special screening and conjesting the area again and maybe they might realize that pilots are there job security. I am glad they are there, and they are doing a better job then what we had previously but we are crew members not a piece of a floater in a porclin bowl

 

[Flying Illini]

just curious for you airline guys that go through this all the time, do they let you keep your nail clippers/personal grooming products/razors?
Also, does anyone carry any sort of tools in their flight bag? I carry a mini leatherman b/c you never know when something like that will come in handy. Loose screw, headset, etc.
I lost my leatherman to the TSA (they let me put it in the mailbox) in HPN once but the next trip to the east coast, going through signature at BOS, I had to go through that stupid metal detector and put my flight bag and luggage though the xray machine. The folks running it started digging through my flight bag (which I wasn't happy about, I can take a sword with me if I want to, it's my plane!) until they found my leatherman. Upon finding it, with a big happy smile on his face, he proudly showed it to me and said, did you know you have a potential weapon in your bag? I replied in the affirmative and told him that while it is a potential weapon, it is most definitely a tool and to please put it back right where he got it.

No point to the story, it just felt good to not be at their mercy.

 

[flighter]

The young Hitler utes (TSA) at DIA confiscated my Lysol that I use to ward off evil viruses at some of the five star places I stay.

 

[probablecause]

STL TSA is the Worse! They took a mini screwdriver from me one time. I used it to open up oil door cam locks during the preflight. I told the guy "That's OK I have two more in the plane" what a jerk...

I have more examples of those STL buffoons but I'm working on my anger management. I understand they have a job to do but most of them have the IQ of a flea.

 

[ShyFlyGuy]

I hate the TSA: overpaid, undereducated, pompus, power-tripping, lazy-a$$, worthless, hopeless, heartless, fat-a$$, no-good, low-life, forefledging, snake-licking, dirt-eating, imbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brain-eating, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-a$$, bugeyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed, sacks of monkey-$hit!

If you ask me, the terrorists won.

Terror: 1
Liberty: 0

"Those who are willing to sacrafice freedom
for security deserve neither."
--Thomas Jefferson

 

[TheCleaner]

Haven't had that much trouble with TSA, but here is a little story about where their heads are (they are just power hungry and hate anyone who is in any position that holds higher esteem than theirs - so that's just about everyone).

I have done some "Work" over the years, and lots of it with the United States Secret Service. In the USSS they have what's called the Counter Assault Team (CAT). These guys are the one's that will fight off the attackers against the President. They don't go anywhere without their "Bags". They carry them on the airplane. They contain numerous guns, ammo, knives, etc. So one of the guys I was working with goes through screening (really around it with his badge and all), but still gets called over by TSA.

The lady tells him she has to look in his bag. He shows her his credentials again, and tells her he is exempt. She asks him for another form of ID, he shows her. She tells him she still has to look through his bag. He asks her what she is looking for. She tells him guns and knives and anything that could be used as a weapon. He is, at this point, just shocked. He tells her that she doesn't need to look in the bag, because everything she is looking for IS IN THE BAG. She still doesn't get it, and he finally lets her look through the bag, and she lets him on with all of the things she was looking for that she didn't want to let through the gate??????

So, it's not just pilots that get the treatment. That would assume that TSA screeners could complete such a complicated thought as differentiating.

 

[Reelbigfish]

They took the mini allen wrench that came with my new E-bag roller bag to replace a broken wheel. WTF, a pen is more dangerous than that thing was!

 

[Flying Illini]

so are you stuck not being able to tighten the screws on your DC's?

Just out of curiosity, why don't SIDA badges and airline ID's with the appropriate pilot licenses and photo ID's mean anything to the TSA? What is the reason for all of these background/security checks that pilots have to go through?