Which VLJ do you like and why?

[G2T]

For the money I would find myself in a new Baron.

I also experienced the eclipse, and for the money, I'm taking the jet. The price is the only thing comparable in these two aircraft.

 

[siucavflight]

I also experienced the eclipse, and for the money, I'm taking the jet. The price is the only thing comparable in these two aircraft.

Guess it depends on what you are looking for. I have a feeling that the Eclipse is going to be a miantence pig.
What was your impression of the Eclipse? Where you let down by it? How many other light turbine aircraft do you have experience with?

 

[G2T]

Guess it depends on what you are looking for. I have a feeling that the Eclipse is going to be a miantence pig.
What was your impression of the Eclipse? Where you let down by it? How many other light turbine aircraft do you have experience with?

It is what it is, the first model of a brand new airplane from a new company. It's not designed to be the fasted or biggest in class, but in comparison to a baron, pretty impressive performance. I have not flown many small turbine aircraft, so I don't have that to compare it to. It might lack in comparison to some of the other VLJ's, but it smokes the piston twin, for not that much more money.

 

[siucavflight]

It is what it is, the first model of a brand new airplane from a new company. It's not designed to be the fasted or biggest in class, but in comparison to a baron, pretty impressive performance. I have not flown many small turbine aircraft, so I don't have that to compare it to. It might lack in comparison to some of the other VLJ's, but it smokes the piston twin, for not that much more money.

Yes, I guess that if you are just looking for speed then the Eclipse wins. I dont know, like I said I would choose the Baron if it were me. Too each their own!

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

I've crawled all over the Mustang and I really like it, especially because we already know it's pedigree.

The only plane I don't like is the Piperjet. There is just something about the engine being mounted on the tail that is rubbing me wrong.

Agreed, the Piper Jet looks like a 2nd grader designed
it. Who knows, the ugly is sometimes the must useful.

Anyone have a SINGLE webpage that shows ALL of
the VLJ's with the progress and performance numbers
and specs?

CE

 

[cezzna]

The mustang and phenom have the advantage of proven know-how, and an already in place parts and maintenance network. The eclipse is so far behind and messed up(engines, avionics), so who knows with that. Something not right about speedbrakes that double as landing gear. In the end, I think it will have the durability of a potato chip. The piper-jet is a design joke, and the cirrus jet looks like a jetsons nightmare. Just pure ugly(think 787 cockpit).

Since all of this started, Cessna designed, tested, certified, and delivered a real product. I think the Phenom will be for real. The rest are toys.

 

[siucavflight]

I would like to see the Mustang in person, after seeing all of the pics, the Mustang gets my vote as far as looks go.

 

[mzaharis]

What is the objection to the Piperjet? The above-the-CG thrust line? It seems that Piper has given a lot of thought to the engine position, including rotor burst considerations, and trim considerations (check out the design briefs on the following link).

http://www.newpiper.com/piperjet/

If their automatic trim compensation system works, the engine mounting seems like a valid approach to optimize inlet efficiency for a single engine aircraft, vs. s-ducts. It seems like most of the single-engine VLJs are going to mounting the engine in a similar place (Piper Jet, Cirrus Personal Jet, Eclipse Concept Jet), with the single exception being the Diamond Jet, which has twin s-shaped ducts into the engine.

 

[propsarebest]

Something not right about speedbrakes that double as landing gear.

You mean like the dc-6 and dc-7????

 

[epic!]

I would like to see the Mustang in person, after seeing all of the pics, the Mustang gets my vote as far as looks go.

its a slick looking aircraft. definitely the "sportiest" jet out right now