Which one to choose??

[Flybet3]

On the Aeroservice jobs fair a pilot from UPS was teaching how to pass on UPS's interview.
He said doesn't matter if it was turboprop, jet or even a broom as far it is Turbine. They want to see 1000 pic turbine not far 61. So It has to be your name on the Flight release as PIC.
BTW, SWA was there too and it is the same rule.

Now there's some good news.

 

[Flybet3]

The truth comes out

If you were a 22 year old pilot, with a Lear Jet type rating and had the following chances of employment:

1- Fly SIC in a Lear Jet under 135 (cargo) with a chance to upgrade in a year or so. Salary between 28K-32K a year, 10 days on 4 days off, full benefits.
2- Fly PIC in a EMB-110 for a cargo op, make 28k a year, full benefits, flying 4 or 5 days a weeks depending on the route.
3- Fly SIC in a Lear Jet under 135 (Air ambulance) no word on the upgrade time, 5 days on 2 days off, full benefits.
4- Fly PIC in a BE99, make 28K a year, full benefits, 5 day route, full benefits.

which one would you chose and why?

1- First company is Tricoastal Air Toledo Ohio.
2- AirNow, dont know which base
3- Medflight Air Ambulance in New Mexico
4- Freight Runners Express Wisconsin I think

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

No man, the Dude is not okay with this.....

#5 drink gasoline.

.....this agression, this agression will not stand, man!

 

[bigD]

"Shut the f*ck up Donny! You're out of your element!"

 

[AlabamaMan!!]

Where/How did you get your Lear-Type?

 

[Flybet3]

Where/How did you get your Lear-Type?

I had a scholarship from doing the right seat program a couple of years back.

 

[Galaxy]

You just added another element to the decision..

You have a family.....
What does your wife say about the differences?
Where is your or her family located to help out with the new baby..You both will need a break!
Would either of you want to live in these places?
It is not an easy decision...and while all the feedback has been somewhat helpful, only you can make it.

1. Don't sell yourself short for jet time or for PIC time
2. You are young and have plenty of time in this field. Relax-Rome wasn't built in a day.
3. Folks say bid one of the three- QOL-PAY-Equiptment
With a family on the way- I say vote quality of life.
4. The dynamics of this job has changed- the million dollar jobs are nearly gone.
Make the most you can while spending as much time with your family.
Live where the two of you want to live.
Time away from your child will get harder every time.

Good Luck on your decision and let us know what you chose.
Galaxy

 

[Clyde]

If you were a 22 year old pilot, with a Lear Jet type rating and had the following chances of employment:

1- Fly SIC in a Lear Jet under 135 (cargo) with a chance to upgrade in a year or so. Salary between 28K-32K a year, 10 days on 4 days off, full benefits.
2- Fly PIC in a EMB-110 for a cargo op, make 28k a year, full benefits, flying 4 or 5 days a weeks depending on the route.
3- Fly SIC in a Lear Jet under 135 (Air ambulance) no word on the upgrade time, 5 days on 2 days off, full benefits.
4- Fly PIC in a BE99, make 28K a year, full benefits, 5 day route, full benefits.

which one would you chose and why?

Go for option #1. You have youth on your side and that is a big advantage. If you are going to upgrade in a year, that puts you in the left seat at 23. If you fly on average 800 hrs a year (about what I averaged under 135) that gives you 1000 PIC jet by age 24 and 2000+ PIC jet by the time you are 26. At that age, you at least exceed the minimum PIC turbine requirement at most airlines. Also, not too many majors are going to be hiring off the streets anytime soon either, so you have plenty of time to build your hours. One of our more noted philosophers on this board will tell you a big hiring boom is on the way very soon because of the number of the year. It's a bunch of crap. Look at the majors, look at the number of furloughs they still would have to call back and train, and then finally look at the financials of the majors. Bottom line: none of the majors other than UPS, FDX, CAL and SWA are opening the doors anytime soon so you have plenty of time to build PIC.

The Lear time will probably be more marketable for you if you want to fly corporate someday too. Not saying it's impossible if all of your time is in props, but from a competition point of view, the jet time may open a few more doors for you.

Above all, go for what you view as being the safest option. In other words, don't risk getting killed or violated because of the lure of quick PIC time or anything else.

 

[wheelsup]

I'm 22, married and with a baby on the way, so I'm just trying to figure out what would be a better route.....

If you're from the east or west coast - you don't want to live in New Mexico. Take it from me. ABQ is a little nicer than the four corners area but it still blows goats. I get depressed flying here because of the dead terrain. My girlfriend and dog hate it...as do I .

~wheelsup

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

Have you been drinking beer with Lajitas?

ABQ is a little nicer than the four corners area but it still blows goats. .

~wheelsup

I guess that goat will let you do anything once he's been drinking!

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

Lajitas - Goat

Clay Henry, the Beer-drinking Goat



Lajitas, Texas

Go to The Trading Post in Lajitas, a town of about 100 along the Rio Grande River near Big Bend National Park, and get some long neck beers. Buy them, then feed them to Clay Henry, the beer-drinking goat.



People come from all over to stand outside Clay Henry's pen and feed him beers all day long. There is no other good reason to be in Lajitas.

Once you pop the cap, Clay will do the rest. As Clay's drinking buddies -- smaller goats who cannot hold the bottle by themselves -- clamor about begging swigs, Clay -- a strapping black mountain goat -- takes the bottle from you, teeth gripping the glass. He rocks his head backward and chugs. When it is empty, Clay spits the bottle aside. Your turn is over. Clay moves down the fence, where the next tourist will feed him the next beer.

Actually, the goat knocking them back these days is Clay Henry, Junior. His father, Clay Henry, Sr. was the original beer-drinking goat. Clay Pere was much beloved in Lajitas for increasing tourism -- and got elected mayor in 1986. Visitors were known to bring a case and go toe to hoove with him. Posters and postcards of a triumphant Clay Henry, Sr. in mid-guzzle are still for sale at local locations. Tough shoes for a kid to fill.

Bill Valentine, the man who runs The Trading Post, stands behind the cash register and tells the shocking story of Clay, Sr's. death in 1992. "Clay, Sr. and Clay, Jr. both got soused in the same pen during rutting season. Clay, Jr. killed his father in a drunken brawl over a female." Clay Henry, Jr. drinks to forget.

Get there in the morning. By mid-afternoon Clay, Jr. -- pen littered with empties -- is clearly adrift in Sot's Bay. After staggering over to his salt lick and working it furiously, he'll drop to all four knees and his minus-sign-irised eyes will roll back in his head. He's had it.

Outside, the other goats finally get their fill from beers originally purchased for Clay, Jr. Inside, Valentine -- the stuffed countenance of Clay, Sr. watching over him -- shakes his head. "Clay, Sr. used to drink as many as people would feed him."

"Clay, Jr.," he says, resigned, "isn't the goat his father was."

November 2003: The Trading Post has reopened after six months of renovations by Austin businessman Steve Smith, who bought the entire town in an auction. He's added a wine and espresso bar and other niceties as part of an overhaul of the Lajitas into a retreat for the rich. But Clay Henry III still chugs beers to the delight of visitors...

August 2002:Beer drinking goat castrated by jealous neighbor! Clay Henry III, beer drinking goat and mayor of the west Texas border town of Lajitas, was attacked by local Jim Bob Hargrove and castrated. Hargrove committed the heinous deed after seeing the goat drinking beer on a Sunday, when the area's blue laws prevent the sale of alcohol to humans. Tourists had apparently been feeding Clay Henry his usual staple of Lone Star longnecks, and Hargrove threatened to castrate the goat, according to eyewitnesses. The mayor was found lying next to his testicles on Monday, Aug. 5. Ranchers sutured his wounds, and Clay was up slugging down cold ones soon after. Hargrove faces charges of animal cruelty. 1996: Clay Jr. has silenced the skeptics; he now drinks 35-40 beers a day. He had a bit role in The Streets of Larado television series, and was filmed for a Sally Jesse Raphael segment in 1995. Clay Sr. lived to be 22, so The Trading Post expects Clay Jr. to be around for a while. "Beer kills you, but it does it slow."

 

[Flybet3]

hmmm

Well, I have the interview with Airnow next week. I plan to attend and see as to what they have open or what's coming open (bases) I think flying the emb110 should be alot of fun, but I want to check first and see where the route is at and what is like. Also tricoastal called again offering an SIC position again, so in a weeks or two I should have made a decision. I surely dont want to rush into anything...we'll see...and yeah, I'm not to crazy about NM

 

[scubabri]

You know.. I had a thought.. Pick any one of the above, but always always always, network network network. Never limit your options to an airline or a charter or whatever.

TT does not always equal experience, I would recommend taking the job that would let you build the most experience that would make you marketable in the future. PIC time, flying in the weather is probably best. Log as many real approaches in various conditions as you can.

for what it's worth... good luck, and don't stress out to much about it because at 22 you have your whole life ahead of you and you can afford to make a few decisions that are not always the best Unless they involve alchohol and cars, or hookers that pee standing up.

sb

 

[Feathersword]

Argh Matie, sounds like some scallywag purchased a lear type??

Just quit flying, and join the Navy!! Either that matie, or quit ye complaining and just PICK a job!! Quit being a 22 year old flybaby and make a decision like a MAN!!

 

[AAflyer]

#5 drink gasoline.

So young.....So Angry........D@mn that RAP music.

AA

 

[Whale Rider]

PIC JET!!!! You know why.

 

[Flybet3]

You know.. I had a thought.. Pick any one of the above, but always always always, network network network. Never limit your options to an airline or a charter or whatever.

TT does not always equal experience, I would recommend taking the job that would let you build the most experience that would make you marketable in the future. PIC time, flying in the weather is probably best. Log as many real approaches in various conditions as you can.

for what it's worth... good luck, and don't stress out to much about it because at 22 you have your whole life ahead of you and you can afford to make a few decisions that are not always the best Unless they involve alchohol and cars, or hookers that pee standing up.

sb

ooooooh come on!!! atleast give me some hookers!!!!!
j/k LOL thank you very much, great advice....it helps alot

 

[Flybet3]

PIC JET!!!! You know why.

Why is that?

 

[Flybet3]

Argh Matie, sounds like some scallywag purchased a lear type??

Just quit flying, and join the Navy!! Either that matie, or quit ye complaining and just PICK a job!! Quit being a 22 year old flybaby and make a decision like a MAN!!

Well reject, unlike you I dont just think about my self, I take my wife and future baby in consideration...dumba$$ take that stupid advise and give it to another retard like your self

 

[Whale Rider]

Why is that?

Why is what?