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Huggyu2

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For those of you "in the know", what jet would be able to fit the following criteria:
- fly non stop from Northern CA to the east coast;
- fly non stop from the east coast to London
- operate out of a 4000' long runway (does this eliminate everyone?)
- what happens if the runway length were 6000' instead? 7000'?

Gulfstream, Challenger, Falcon? Something else?
 
With the 4,000 ft. runway..I'd call the frenchman at Dassault, Falcons are your best bet for good range combined with good takeoff and landing numbers.
 
Huggyu2 said:
For those of you "in the know", what jet would be able to fit the following criteria:
- fly non stop from Northern CA to the east coast;
- fly non stop from the east coast to London
- operate out of a 4000' long runway (does this eliminate everyone?)
- what happens if the runway length were 6000' instead? 7000'?

Gulfstream, Challenger, Falcon? Something else?
How many people are you thinking about hauling?
 
I know it won't have the same prestige and speed but apparently the CE-680 (Sovereign) has numbers better than what Cessna claimed it would do. 2800 nautical on the range (coast to coast any day of the year) and down right ridiculous ref speeds and landing numbers. Maybe someone from citation shares could elaborate. I know a few corporate shops run them already.
 
Huggyu2 said:
- fly non stop from Northern CA to the east coast;
- fly non stop from the east coast to London
what about the return?:)

what is the budget? 10M? 15M? 20M? 25M? more? and yes a 6000' rwy would give you more options on a day to day operation. wet rwy, ifr approaches are just a couple considerations that could impede a 4000' operation. and remember they always end up wanting to do more than they originally intended.
 
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Here ya go

DA-900B, 400' field elev. 29.92, 15c, 4000' RW, no wind, no slope
Basic BOW 25500
MATOW 39780
BFL 4000'
Gross Climb 9.3%
V1 105
V2/Vr 121
Vfr 146
Vfs 174
Vref@42k 132 LD/LFL 3550/5930
 
falcon will do it...

The Falcon Tri-jets are the planes for this mission. Performance #'s even gets better with the EX models.
 
I would look into CL-30 (BD100)

I would look into challenger 300! Many times the required landing distance can come in to play also! Challenger 300 has awesome performance! It is also under 20 mil$
 
limodriver1 said:
I would look into challenger 300! Many times the required landing distance can come in to play also! Challenger 300 has awesome performance! It is also under 20 mil$

Does this have an IRS yet?
 

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