Where'd "Death By Jesus" go?

[Super 80]

There, there, Chopper pilot, you're not bound for Hell. Not only do you have your Jesus nut on top of the mast, but there's still time for you to find Jesus in your heart,

 

[Wiggums]

I was getting worried --- my position as the person who started the longest thread on flightinfo was in doubt.

 

[enigma]

Ohhhh.. That hurts.

In the time it took you to write those nice words you could have attempted to save someone.. One more person going to hell.

Forgive me for painting with a broad brush, but why would one who rejects Jesus turn around and accept the concept of a place/position called hell? The concept of hell comes from the same source as the concept of a Savior for mankind. Again, how can you accept one Biblical concept while rejecting another?

I can understand a pure atheist. I hope that such a person will re-evalute his position, but I can accept him. I don't understand why some of you who claim to reject the concept of a Supreme being will turn right around and seemingly accept another concept that only came from writings claiming to be inspired by said Supreme being.

enigma

 

[Typhoon1244]

...how can you accept one Biblical concept while rejecting another?

Well, for starters, I think cherplt was using a little-known (at least on this thread) literary device called "sarcasm." I've never known a devout member of any religion who understood it.

(There is, however, the possibility that you yourself were employing sarcasm to brow-beat Cherplt. If that's the case, I stand corrected.)

 

[Iceman21]

I am little bit on the miffed side here. chperplt decides he doesn't like the thread he started anymore, despite the fact that there was a monumental amount of information concerning both sides of the argument at hand. Now, because someone wanted nothing to do with something he/she started, they got rid of it, along with the wealth of information others could use to research and learn from.

Does anyone else see this as wrong, along with myself?

 

[fLYbUDDY]

I am little bit on the miffed side here. chperplt decides he doesn't like the thread he started anymore, despite the fact that there was a monumental amount of information concerning both sides of the argument at hand. Now, because someone wanted nothing to do with something he/she started, they got rid of it, along with the wealth of information others could use to research and learn from.

Does anyone else see this as wrong, along with myself?

I also see it as wrong to have been deleted. But to be honest I am not really all that surprised. (I mean the last time a thread like that happened Typhoon deleted it before it even got to 10 pages.)

BTW-Good posting Super80, TB, Typhoon, skyking, EO, and the rest that took the time to contribute logical arguments to the thread.

 

[I.P. Freley]

>>>chperplt decides he doesn't like the thread he started anymore, despite the fact that there was a monumental amount of information concerning both sides of the argument at hand.<<<

Arguments that involve religion rarely involve "information" in the classic sense... Just a huge amount of highly biased ranting.

>>>Good posting Super80, TB, Typhoon, skyking, EO, and the rest that took the time to contribute logical arguments to the thread.<<<

Any "logic" based upon an historical document that well over 90% of the world refuses to believe in (oh, those heathen!!) is hardly the basis for a "logical argument". No props, from this end, for Super80 et. al.

The only thing that I am annoyed by here is the fact that this thread was perilously close to surpassing the record for the "most posted" thread on flightinfo. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Timebuilder]

it's advertisement based, so maybe the clients weren't too happy about a good fashioned banter

Site revenue is based on visits. It is possible that a great number of the over 7,000 reads were from those who are not members. This could happen if emails were circulated among friends, saying "hey, there's this cool thread on a place called flightinfo: check it out."

I was wondering when the starter would delete the thread; it's one of the shortcomings of the software, IMHO.

Let's review his given reasons:

Chperplt was tired of being told he was going to hell because he wasn't a Christian.

In that case, your argument isn't with any of us, your fellow posters.

Your "argument" is with God. He decided how the plan of salvation would work, made the rules, made the participants, and made a lot of people carry His word to the world. You can take it up with Him later.

Chperplt was tired of reading the words of people who have so little in their lives that they have to grasp a hold of something and try to make everyone else like them.

I have more in my life than ever before. If you didn't want to "read words", then why not just refuse to click on the link?

I'm a little amazed that one poster said he was "tired of seeing the post at the top of the list all the time". Isn't the tried and true method to to just go on about your business if there is a thread (or TV progream) that you don't like?

Chperplt forwarded death by jesus to everyone in his address book and thinks it is a great joke.

Now why am I not surprised by this?

This is the second time that a thread that literally hundreds of members and/or visitors had found interesting was deleted by the thread starter. I had also said that I had started NONE of these threads, to date.

I may have to start one, if only to protect it from deletion by a disgruntled poster. We'll see how this one fares, first.

 

[Northern Lights]

Life by Jesus

John Ch. 6 ver. 35

Then Jesus declared, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes will never be thirsty."

ver 37.

"...and whoever comes to me I will never drive away."

John Ch. 14 ver. 6

"I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

 

[JBcrjca]

FORCING me to read your post - - he kept mumbling something about his cousin Vinny who was doing the very same thing to you, forcing you to CLICK on a "Death by Jesus" thread and scroll through, reading post after post after post.

TonyC - I never said anyone forced me to read the thread, and I never said I read post after post after post. I found the initial story amusing, but as I stated, I lost interest after about 15 posts. Of course I know how to 'not click' on a thread, but one can't help but notice the ever-climbing post count. Also, the last sentence of my previous post was regarding organized religion in general, not the 'forced' reading of a bulletin board.

chperplt decides he doesn't like the thread he started anymore, despite the fact that there was a monumental amount of information concerning both sides of the argument at hand

What's the point of arguing about religion on here anyway? Everyone believes what they want...it's highly unlikely that anyone would convert based upon what they read here. This is just my opinion of course, I'm sure I'll get bashed for it.

 

[labbats]

The software probably couldn't handle so many uses of the quote function and shut down. Seems we're repeating the cycle.

Arguing about religion is a no-win situation. Believe what you want to and don't let anyone tell you different.

 

[Super 80]

Arguing about religion is a no-win situation.

I respectfully disagree.

First of all, this argument was not heated. It was not an argument in the normal sense of the word as the connotation would imply. It was largely devoid of any ad hominem attacks that so typically bespeckle anonymous posts on message boards.

There was real testimony put forth as well as information meant to aid and bolster faith. I will continue to put out some word study from time to time which I think actually deepens my appreciation for the Word of God as presented in the Bible.

By the way, if there was a subject a reader liked, but didn't copy or would like to see again, ask and I can probably replicate it easily enough, or just put it out again if it was from a paper I already have written.

Second of all, most of the arguments put forth here were in the affirmative, i.e. the proponents for Faith gave reasons for why they had Faith. Sometimes arguments were in the negative, as with my comments on Islam. However, that would not prevent a Muslim from coming on here and answering my criticisms as I and others have done in a like manner from the atheist/agnostic camp.

Believe what you want to and don't let anyone tell you different.

This sounds like the ostrich defense. If I don't see it, it doesn't exist. Or the subtitle like they used to do on the old Rocky and Bullwinkle show would be: "Ignorant and apathetic? I don't know and I don't care."

By sharing perspectives, you can actually hone in on what it is you want to believe. For those that have rejected Christianity based on a previous experience, this forum can provide another means to examine what Christianity is. Or something you learn here might actually help you past a difficulty you had with the Gospel message.

 

[Super 80]

Chperplt was tired of being told he was going to hell because he wasn't a Christian.

Chperplt was tired of reading the words of people who have so little in their lives that they have to grasp a hold of something and try to make everyone else like them.

Chperplt forwarded death by jesus to everyone in his address book and thinks it is a great joke.

Okay, here's my attempt at humor: This sounds surprisingly like Gollum in the Return of the King. -See it doesn't work well on a message board.

However, Chperplt, no one I think actually consigned you to Hell forever, only that Jesus said He was the only way to the Father that you do worship. And there is plenty of prophecy in the Old Testament that points directly to Jesus for you to examine just as the first Jews to believe in Jesus had done after the Pentecost. If you think you're going to Hell, it may be because of your animus towards those Jews that do believe in Jesus indicates that at this time you still reject Jesus' offer of Salvation.

But there is a time when people like you will literally have your eyes opened and it comes from a passage you should know, one of the Minor Prophets.

ZEC 12:10 "And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son. 11 On that day the weeping in Jerusalem will be great, like the weeping of Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. 12 The land will mourn, each clan by itself, with their wives by themselves: the clan of the house of David and their wives, the clan of the house of Nathan and their wives, 13 the clan of the house of Levi and their wives, the clan of Shimei and their wives, 14 and all the rest of the clans and their wives.

This is actually a future prophecy yet to be fulfilled. It is in a section of prophecy concerning the Day of the Lord.

I allow for you to have ample time to come to know Jesus. As far as I know, it could be as late as the Angel that proclaims the Word of God to all the Nations right before Christ's return where He sets His feet on the Mount of Olives, and splits the mountain in two. (Rev 14:6-7 and Zec 14:4) This is the fulfillment of what Jesus said would happen before His return as well from the Olivet Discourse in Matthew 24:14. (See, we think we can do this ourselves, but it's another God-thing!)

Later I'm going to put something out on the two feedings where Jesus breaks the bread and baskets of remnants were gathered up far greater than what was initially offered. There is a beautiful story in there most of us don't realize because we're not in tune with the geography of the land and the significance of the number of baskets. But the gist of it is, is that the Word of God is given to Israel and the Pagan nations around her.

 

[labbats]

Nice use of the quote function.

 

[PilotBarbie]

there's hope, though

accept jesus and get a free Play Station

details here: linky

You are mean and in my humble opinion an angry and bitter man.

Is this because you are afraid all those who believe in Christ are right? Is it because God is all powerful? If so, you too can find inner peace, but first you MUST open your eyes, ears and heart and listen to the word of God.

"Hearing God is the Ultimate Blessing"

I will pray for your soul and for others like you.

^I^ PB ^I^

 

[Typhoon1244]

chperplt decides he doesn't like the thread he started anymore, despite the fact that there was a monumental amount of information concerning both sides of the argument at hand. Does anyone else see this as wrong, along with myself?

I don't see it as a bad thing at all. That thread's popularity is apparently increasing since it was killed. Don't think of it as just a deleted thread. It's a martyr. It died for all our threads.

 

[Swass]

I think it's bogus that it was deleted and I didn't even read three pages. My New Year's Resolution is to stay off the political/religious threads. I just tend to get all worked up and stuff.

 

[Typhoon1244]

I think it's bogus that it was deleted and I didn't even read three pages.

You didn't miss much.

Now that I think about it, why should anyone be upset about Cherplt nuking that thread? He's the one who ought to be upset! He's the victim of the worst case of thread hijacking I've ever seen. An "urban legend" joke turned into a debate on the existence of God because one member (Super 80) took offense to it.

I'd have deleted it too, and I've had a better excuse than I did when I deleted a similar thread months ago.

 

[Sctt@NJA]

That Jesus stuff is just weird I tell ya. I think old mother Mary has some splainin to do... I mean she was married, and a virgin, and had a baby? Ishh dont think so. Maybe she wasn't given any to Joseph, but she was given some to somebody.

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

you too can find inner peace, but first you MUST open your eyes, ears and heart and listen to the word of God

I did, and gotta Play Station