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ASH

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What's going on here fellas?

What's to be discussed? Get the TA out to a vote for pete's sake!
Nothing can be changed about it now, either the MEC recommends it or not.

C'mon!
 
No. But our company has alot riding on the success or failure of Mother "D".
Judging by the contents of the TA I think we may be able to come up with an educated guess as to whether or not it will pass, therefor reflecting on DAL ability to survive. Just a little anxious when negotiations ended a week ago, and we have heard nothing.
 
ASH said:
No. But our company has alot riding on the success or failure of Mother "D".

That's a very selfish thing to say. Think about those who do work for Delta and those that work for Comair.

Good luck fellas.
 
ASH said:
What's going on here fellas?

What's to be discussed? Get the TA out to a vote for pete's sake!
Nothing can be changed about it now, either the MEC recommends it or not.

C'mon!

Rumor at NWA is that DAL has agreed not to post their TA info untill after May 3rd when our vote on our TA is tallied.....unofficial rumor.

Our MEC is meeting next week to recall our MEC Chairman and Vice Chairman......
 
Speaking of the NWA TA do you guys think it will pass? I had a NWA jumpseater a week or so a go and he thought it would be very close. What is the latest?
 
Old School 737 said:
Speaking of the NWA TA do you guys think it will pass? I had a NWA jumpseater a week or so a go and he thought it would be very close. What is the latest?

Super secret polling data was leaked and it shows it comming right down to the wire. It's statistically a dead heat. The yes voters are flipping out, the no voters are rubbing their Rosary Beads. Everyone was holding their breath.

Well, then a bunch of really pissy red book guys (red book guys being uptight? Please say it isn't so!) decided that having someone who isn't a company clone and member of the politburo on the MSP LEC is verbotten, and went nuclear, and initiated a recall proceeding of the MSP FO rep.

DTW then when when along with the MAD "stratergy" and called for the recall of the MEC Chairman while offering up the MEC ViceChairman as sacrifice (a DTW guy)

Meanwhile, while the nukes are passing each other over the poles, the pilot group is standing around going WTF,O?

You are watching the catastrophic meltdown of what was once the most unified pilot group.

FWIW, I also heard the rumor that the DAL MEC is keeping raps on their TA until the close of voting at NWA. I'm not quite sure to what end they would do this though...

Nu
 
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ASH said:
What's going on here fellas?

What's to be discussed? Get the TA out to a vote for pete's sake!
Nothing can be changed about it now, either the MEC recommends it or not.

C'mon!

I guess the COEX flying is not enough for you? You must be apart of the CHQ cut back in Florida.
 
RJ Bum said:
That's a very selfish thing to say. Think about those who do work for Delta and those that work for Comair.

Good luck fellas.

Did not mean to sound selfish in the least. ALOT of people have their willies swinging in the breeze with this. What,.. I can't question it because I'm not "mainline". It's not just mainline and Comair with something to lose.

Best of wishes to DAL folks.
 
Look at it this way folks, the contents of the TA are going to be a lot like the contents of the mystery Tupperware container lurking in the back of the fridge. We're not sure what's in it, but we can be pretty sure we're not going to like it.
 
MQAAord said:
Look at it this way folks, the contents of the TA are going to be a lot like the contents of the mystery Tupperware container lurking in the back of the fridge. We're not sure what's in it, but we can be pretty sure we're not going to like it.



Truer words were never spoken
 
Here is some of the TA:



Section 1​


SCOPE​



Amend​
Section 1 B. 17. c. to read: :

c. one of up to 200 jet aircraft configured with 51-70 passenger seats and certificated in the United States with a maximum gross takeoff weight of 86,000 pounds or less (“70-seat jets”).​


Add a new
Section 1 B. 17. d. and e. to read:


d. beginning January 1, 2007 one of up to the number specified in the chart below jet aircraft configured with 71-76 passenger seats and certificated in the United States with a maximum gross takeoff weight of 86,000 pounds or less (“76-seat jets”). The number of 76-seat jets may be increased above the number specified in the chart below by three 76-seat jets for each aircraft above the number of aircraft in the fleet operated by the Company (in service, undergoing maintenance and operational spares) as of January 1, 2007. The number and type of aircraft in the fleet on January 1, 2007
will be provided to the Association in writing no later than January 15, 2007. Such a report will also be provided to the Association at the scheduled quarterly financial update. The number of 70-seat jets plus 76-seat jets permitted by​
Section 1 B. 17. may not exceed 200. Once the number of permitted 76-seat jets is established, it will not be reduced except as provided in the Note below.

Letter #51 Bankruptcy Restructuring Agreement T/A​

3​

Year Permitted 76-seat Jets


2007 15​


2008 and beyond 30

Note: If a pilot on the seniority list as of June 1, 2006 (

i.e., Troy Kane and above) is placed on furlough after April 13, 2006, the Company will convert all 76-seat jets for operation as 70 seat jets.

e. A carrier that operates any of the 70- or 76-seat jets not being operated as of November 1, 2004, may do so only if that carrier and the Company have agreed to terms for a preferential hiring process for pilots furloughed by the Company (i.e., a pilot furloughed by the Company will be given preferential hiring at a Delta Connection Carrier if he completes all new hire paper work, meets all new hire airman and medical qualifications, satisfies background checks and successfully completes an interview). The Company will offer preferential interviews for employment to airmen employed by a Delta Connection Carrier that offers preferential hiring to furloughed pilots in accordance with this paragraph, subject to the Company’s objectives for diversity and experience among newly hired pilots. A pilot hired by a Delta Connection Carrier operating any of the 70 or 76-seat jets not being operated as of November 1, 2004 will not be required to resign his Delta seniority number in order to be hired by such carrier.
 
"Note: If a pilot on the seniority list as of June 1, 2006 (i.e., Troy Kane and above) is placed on furlough after April 13, 2006, the Company will convert all 76-seat jets for operation as 70 seat jets."

I got a nice bridge for sale:)

 

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