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navy737

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I am currently looking to do a 2 or 3 day cram course for the written and pratical ATP certification. Where is the "best" place to go? I am in Dallas and was considering ALL ATP locally. Any recommendations....PLEASE?!!!
 
i'm going to sheble aviation in vegas next week. 2 day course for $1600 including examiner's fee.
 
Prepping for the written is going to take a lot longer than 2 or 3 days. There's a whole lot of stuff to learn (especially Part 121). The Gleim book for it is huge!
 
flyer172r said:
Prepping for the written is going to take a lot longer than 2 or 3 days. There's a whole lot of stuff to learn (especially Part 121). The Gleim book for it is huge!
the course is design for you to just take the written, their expecting you to study prior to that. their not going to study the gleim book with you question per question.
 
Sheble

I went to Sheble for my ATP in 1989 when he was still in Blythe, California. The place does the job. I reported at 4:00 p.m. on Sunday and was gone by noon on Monday with my ATP.

If you go there, be sure that you are very well prepared beforehand and very instrument-current. You will get little training. I had a friend who went to Sheble for his multi (which it did for him in something like four hours flight time!) who gave me his Duchess materials. I flew the Blythe approaches for hours in our ERAU ground trainers for weeks before I went there. The preparation will pay off.

A good argument can be made for looking for an instructor, examiner and airplane/ground trainer on your local airport for your ATP. Moreover, a good argument can be made for getting a single-engine ATP in your favorite simple single. A single-engine ATP is every bit an ATP as one obtained in a multi. Either scheme might save you money.

Good luck with your choice of ATP provider.
 
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flyer172r said:
Prepping for the written is going to take a lot longer than 2 or 3 days. There's a whole lot of stuff to learn (especially Part 121). The Gleim book for it is huge!
Navy737- All the above posts are pretty much right, it is going to take a while to memorize the questions. Remember, you're just memorizing the questions and answers. Don't worry about if you don't understand the material, just memorize it. My personal suggestion is to order the Gleim computer program as opposed to the big red book. You can do this on the Gleim website. They'll email you the link and a password to just download the program to your computer. It's the exact same info as the big red book, but I found that studying on the computer is alot easier, because it presents the info in the exact way the testing center will present it to you. Also, you can score yourself, and go back to practice the "problem" questions over and over again. If you can spend 2 consecutive days and go over the questions about 5-7 times, you should be ready. I would not go to AllATP to do the written, because they're charging you money just to do what you can do at home only for the cost of the computer program. There are several testing centers in the DFW area you can take your written at: (I'm in the DFW area as well.)
Now for your practical rating, I would personally suggest you go to ALLATP at Arlington airport. That's where I went, and I was impressed. It's a 2 day program. They give you a small handbook a week or so before you start training. Memorize this cold. Based on my personal experience and what the instructors and other students at ALLATP say, the examiner will only ask you questions from this handbook on your oral. You will have about 3-5 training flights in the piper seminole (new aircraft btw), and you will also fly in their simulator (Frasca I believe). The hardest part for me was learning how to use the GPS. They will help you. I did my ATP after not having flown for almost 3 years. I was rusty. I went to a local flight school and rented a seminole for about an hour with an instructor just to get back into things. Remember to table fly and know where all the switches are.
This is my personal opinion and I wish you luck. I passed my ATP ride at this place, so it can be done :) . My examiner was KB Glenn. They also have another examiner that sort of works at this school. His name is Keith something. I've only heard bad things about this guy. I've heard he's pretty much fair, but very unforgiving. One guy who was training along side me failed his checkride only because he forgot a few very small items and tuned in the wrong frequency for an ils, but quickly corrected it. I wasn't there and don't know what really happened, but that is what I was told. Anyway good luck to you.
 
MED said:
the course is design for you to just take the written, their expecting you to study prior to that. their not going to study the gleim book with you question per question.
You may want to study grammer first..
"they're" not "their"
 
The best place to get an ATP is at the regional airline you work for when you upgrade. It's free. But I guess most places are asking for an ATP these days.
 
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The best place to get an ATP is at the regional airline you work for when you upgrade. It's free. But I guess most places are asking for an ATP these days.
They also did fourteen years ago. That hasn't changed, nor has the need for presenting the best credentials possible to be competitive. We cannot control completely all of our credentials, but we can control our certficates and ratings. So, if getting the ATP on our own nickels lets us check off another box, it's money well spent. It's also tax-deductable.
 

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