Where are the statiticians?

[GravityHater]

Before we go jumping off cliffs, I thought it would be good to actually apply some numbers.... Are accidents really up in the last 90 days or are we just getting inundated by media reports? Is all this merely 'business as usual' or a true blip in the curve?

BTW, over a hunert folks died in cars today and ah doan see no squirming and hand-wringing. A hundred people. Today, every day of the year (on average), all year long, every year. 100. Like, 4 per hour on a 24/7 basis, 365days a year. Constant Carnage. Darned cars.

 

[Flying Illini]

and the frustrating part is that no-one seems to care about the cars. "Oh it's ok if there are car accidents and 5 people died." then the same people: "there was a plane crash today and 3 people died? That's terrible, those planes are so unsafe!"

Ignorance...is bliss?

 

[350DRIVER]

The media has always had a fixation on aircraft accidents, especially when they are fatal and involve celebrity passengers onboard. The general public has always taken some sort of strange interest in this and the media knows it will sell and increase ratings. No matter how "wrong" they tend to report it they know that a major interest will be obtained and they then have time to correct the reporting over time. Most operators that carry celebs on a regular basis pre-warn the pilots in the unlikely event of some accident or incident not to speak to anyone from the media and allow a company designated spokesperson to make any and all comments at the appropriate time(s).

some things will never change, gotta love the media

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[Tackleberry]

I thought it was standard practice at all companies, not just ones who carry celebs, not to talk to the media?

That goes for all companies outside aviation too, or at least the one's I've worked for.

 

[350DRIVER]

I thought it was standard practice at all companies, not just ones who carry celebs, not to talk to the media?

That goes for all companies outside aviation too, or at least the one's I've worked for.

Some operators have policy written down and it is considered the way things are expected to go and others are more relaxed and are not as specific.

Some operators will not allow tips to be accepted by flight crews but others will..

What is done at one company may not be done the same at company X.

Some operators won't even allow company pilots to comment on accidents involving other operators due to possible negative publicity, some could care less.



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[FN FAL]

Some operators have policy written down and it is considered the way things are expected to go and others are more relaxed and are not as specific.

Some operators won't even allow company pilots to comment on accidents involving other operators due to possible negative publicity, some could care less.

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It's a good Idea to follow your company ops manual, cause once you utter, there goes your bread and butter. And it's like forever...it don't go away once they write that stuff down. If I get into something like this, I'm going to let my D.O. do my talking...just like the fedex crew that pranged one in at MEM not to long ago...those guys did the right thing.

CHI04LA042On December 16, 2003, about 0730 central standard time, a Beech 99, N399CZ, operated as Freight Runners Express flight 1544 from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, to Mosinee, Wisconsin, sustained substantial damage during a hard landing on runway 8 (7,645 feet by 150 feet, concrete) at Central Wisconsin Airport (CWA), near Mosinee, Wisconsin. The 14 CFR Part 135 non-scheduled domestic cargo flight was operating on an instrument flight rules (IFR) flight plan. Instrument meteorological conditions prevailed at the time of the accident. The airline transport pilot reported no injuries. The flight originated from General Mitchell International Airport, near Milwaukee, Wisconsin, about 0630 and was landing at CWA at the time of the accident.

The pilot stated:
On approach to rwy 8 at CWA I got high [and] right of course.
When I broke out of clouds around 1000 [feet above ground level] I
saw the runway, realizing I was high I pulled the power back [and]
increased my rate of descent. I started to arrest my rate of descent
[and] add power to keep my speed up. The engines didn't spool up
in time resulting in a hard [landing]. I noticed the right wing was a
little low taxing in so I thought maybe I blew a tire on landing. Not
until I shut down [and] got out did I realize I hit the prop about an
inch back [and] the engine nacelle dropped down several inches in
front.

The pilot reported that the flight did not have any mechanical malfunctions.

At 0645, the CWA recorded weather was: Wind 330 degrees at 8 knots; visibility 4 statute miles; present weather light snow; sky condition overcast 300 feet; temperature 1 degree C; dew point -1 degree C; altimeter 29.41 inches of mercury.

At 0755, the CWA recorded weather was: Wind 330 degrees at 15 knots gusting to 20 knots; visibility 4 statute miles; present weather light snow; sky condition broken 1,200 feet, overcast 2,500 feet; temperature -2 degrees C; dew point -4 degrees C; altimeter 29.44 inches of mercury.

 

[TOGA]

400,000/yr killed by smoking-related illnesses.

400,000/yr killed by infections in hospitals.

xxx,000/yr killed by cancers.

Darn them wacky aeroplanes, anyway!

 

[neflier]

We got the bubble-headed bleach blonde
Comes on at five
She can tell ya 'bout the plane crash
With a gleam in her eye
It's int'resting when people die
Give us dirty laundry

Can we film the operation
Is the head dead yet
Y'know the boys in the newsroom
Got a running bet
Get the widow on the set
We need dirty laundry

You don't really need to find out
What's going on
You don't want to know just
How far it's gone
Just leave well enough alone
Keep your dirty laundry