where are all the egpws stories?

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It occurred to me I have read a lot of stories about how radar or onboard nexrad has helped pilots avoid terrible weather, how windshear alerts have helped prevent those accidents, how other electronic devices have kept others alive but I cannot recall a single story about how the GPSW saved anyone. "there we were, blissfully blasting towards a mountaintop and the thing started squawking so we climbed...looking back at it we were off course........"
Are they (the accounts) out there? Or is the system not all they hoped?
 

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go to the Honeywell website, many documented saves.
 

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I will but biased sites (ie the BRS site with all its 'saves') has always put me off a little.
 

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There we were, upside down heading towards a mountain, "pull up, pull up" So I did, unfortunately for us we were upside down.
 

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I imagine that his post was meant as flame bait, I mean come on to suggest that the terrain warning system has never saved anyone is stupid.
 

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Even at 45,000ft during cruise "Terrain Terrain, Pull Up!" is scarey as hell when I goes off in error!
 

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I imagine that his post was meant as flame bait, I mean come on to suggest that the terrain warning system has never saved anyone is stupid.
Review my post, I did not suggest any such thing. I asked a question. Please pay attention and only post relevant, useful answers!
here, a simple punctuation review:
? = question mark, and means the person writing said question mark does not know, and seeks input or answers.
If a poster says, "I suggest....." -- THEN they are, in fact, "suggesting". Lesson over. Recess time.
 

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Is there a way to find out if a EGPWS alarm activated on a flight that happened days ago?

Or the only ones are recorded in the black box (if any), during the last 30 minutes of the last flight that plane made?
 

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Is there a way to find out if a EGPWS alarm activated on a flight that happened days ago?

Or the only ones are recorded in the black box (if any), during the last 30 minutes of the last flight that plane made?
The Honeywell EGPWS stores lots of data and the last 100 warnings or so, including Bank Angle !!!
 

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While we are at it, anyone heard of companies turning off EGPWS callouts? Company I fly with has all planes callouts below 500' disabled. No one knows why. One pilot says he doesnt like them and is glad they are disabled. Craziest thing I've ever hear of. What could you say to the FAA or NTSB if ................??
 

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While we are at it, anyone heard of companies turning off EGPWS callouts? Company I fly with has all planes callouts below 500' disabled. No one knows why. One pilot says he doesnt like them and is glad they are disabled. Craziest thing I've ever hear of. What could you say to the FAA or NTSB if ................??
call outs such as 500ft and 50ft 40 30 20 10 are options at install, they are not required.
 

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It occurred to me I have read a lot of stories about how radar or onboard nexrad has helped pilots avoid terrible weather, how windshear alerts have helped prevent those accidents, how other electronic devices have kept others alive but I cannot recall a single story about how the GPSW saved anyone. "there we were, blissfully blasting towards a mountaintop and the thing started squawking so we climbed...looking back at it we were off course........"
Are they (the accounts) out there? Or is the system not all they hoped?
from Honeywell:

Honeywell pioneered the first Terrain Awareness and Warning System (TAWS) over 30 years ago. Today, we offer Enhanced TAWS protection in our "EGPWS" for thousands of aircraft of all types around the world. EGPWS is already credited with 30 documented aircraft saves
 

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True...........sort of. An option at install AND any other time you want to enable or disable - its in the Honeywell manual. Again, while disabling the low altitude callouts seems crazy to me, I'm not above saying I'm wrong or there was good reason I'm unaware of. I'd just like to hear one.............
 

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Ours went off at night, in the snow at kcrw. We were at 8000 decending for the ILS 23. Makes you age prematurely. We checked, rechecked and re-re-checked the altimeters and plates. We were EXTRA cautios on the approach wich was about 400 1/2.
 
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