What's your standard yearly raise

[501261]

. Making $53K-56K

That's just sad! Someone please give L/D a real corporate job, he seems like a nice kid!

You know there's never as good a time to be looking for a new job, than when you have a job.

It might be beneficial to step back. Back in 1998, I was a Lear Capt/Check Airman, and I left that job to take a King Air 200 job. The part 91 King Air paid $75,000, the 135 Lear job was paying $45,000. Taking the King Air job ended up being a great career move the. Obliviously, I had reservations of going from a jet to a turbo prop at that point in my career. However, if I didn't take the King Air job I would have never met the people I work for now.

 

[135fr8r]

3 percent here with a Christmas bonus being a turkey, and we are $30,000 below industry average.

 

[rice]

Look, before anyone flames me for being an a$$ about this, let it be known that I got hosed in the raise dept. this year too. What my boss offered was nothing short of an outright insult and soon enough he will see how much more expensive it'll be hire, train, and retain the next fool(s). Instead of keeping us (me and the other guy) happy with a nice 6-10% bump he'll soon be realizing what ought to amount to about a $50k hit in training and new hire costs per pilot plus he's gonna miss some trips without a crew.
Now that being said, getting hosed on the raise is one thing but you guys who state that you're $30k or 30% below industry avg should be shot. Where was your brain parked during the interview?? If you were so dumb (yes dumb) to take a job that paid so poorly then you don't deserve a raise!!!! Do you really think that any employer who can get you so cheap to begin with is ever going to take care of you in the future.
Do the entire profession a favor, pull your head out of your a$$ and don't accept below avg wages when offered the job. Go work at Home Depot for a few months and keep interviewing for a decent job.

 

[135fr8r]

Listen Mr. Rice, before you start running your mouth, you had better either ask questions, or find some other information regarding this before you start blabbing.

I myself was told I would be industry standard after I got out of training. Yes, that was stated, so to Hell with the "where was your head in the interview" remarks. Apparently we all had no idea the Chief Pilot was spineless when it came to fighting for his team. Other pilots have been told the same thing as well. We are dealing with it, and all looking elsewhere.

You aren't the only one.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Listen Mr. Rice, before you start running your mouth, you had better either ask questions, or find some other information regarding this before you start blabbing.

I myself was told I would be industry standard after I got out of training. Yes, that was stated, so to Hell with the "where was your head in the interview" remarks. Apparently we all had no idea the Chief Pilot was spineless when it came to fighting for his team. Other pilots have been told the same thing as well. We are dealing with it, and all looking elsewhere.

You aren't the only one.

You took a job without an offer and salary on paper?

wow.




and its not "MR Rice".....Rice is a chik....and not a very good looking one I would guess..

 

[rice]

You took a job without an offer and salary on paper?

wow.
and its not "MR Rice".....Rice is a chik....and not a very good looking one I would guess..

135fr8r,
Sorry man, my post wasn't directed at you specifically. But if the shoe fits................
As you said "I myself was told I would be industry standard after I got out of training". Told means nothing, I know I've been there, if its not in writing then it doesn't exist period. Don't bitch about it, change it, and if that means moving on then so be it. These aren't ALPA jobs, there's no seniority to protect. Go out and find the next better gig. This is the only profession I know of where having multiple employers is not necessarily a bad thing. EVERYONE in this business (Corp) knows how many crappy jobs are out there and as long as you can explain why you left then most won't hold it against you.

And BTW, I am most certainly the ugliest chik you've ever seen in your life. That is unless you've seen G200 out on a Saturday night "all dressed up in the East Village" with the other Queens. imp:

 

[Gumby]

135fr8r,
Sorry man, my post wasn't directed at you specifically. But if the shoe fits................
As you said "I myself was told I would be industry standard after I got out of training". Told means nothing, I know I've been there, if its not in writing then it doesn't exist period. Don't bitch about it, change it, and if that means moving on then so be it. These aren't ALPA jobs, there's no seniority to protect. Go out and find the next better gig. This is the only profession I know of where having multiple employers is not necessarily a bad thing. EVERYONE in this business (Corp) knows how many crappy jobs are out there and as long as you can explain why you left then most won't hold it against you.

And BTW, I am most certainly the ugliest chik you've ever seen in your life. That is unless you've seen G200 out on a Saturday night "all dressed up in the East Village" with the other Queens. imp:

Now, you knew it wouldnt be long before I chimed in....I would have to agree with Rice, he always lays the foundation on too heavy......Make's him look like a Clown(puncher)

And G200..I wouldnt take that from an older Queen like Rice!! He's just jealous! I've been with you "dwelling" in the dark box.....He's an angry Clown Puncher...:smash:

 

[rice]

Now, you knew it wouldnt be long before I chimed in....I would have to agree with Rice, he always lays the foundation on too heavy......Make's him look like a Clown(puncher)

And G200..I wouldnt take that from an older Queen like Rice!! He's just jealous! I've been with you "dwelling" in the dark box.....He's an angry Clown Puncher...:smash:

Hmm, Gumby and G200 "dwelling in the dark box" together??? Brings to mind some rather DISGUSTING images. I knew you two were "friends" but I never knew how much you liked each other.:erm:
You to registered with the NGPA????

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Hmm, Gumby and G200 "dwelling in the dark box" together??? Brings to mind some rather DISGUSTING images. I knew you two were "friends" but I never knew how much you liked each other.:erm:
You to registered with the NGPA????

Rice you grumpy ole' Holiday flyer...BAMM!...take that you clown!

You're just jealous.... Gumby aint the smartest guy around but he's pretty cute for a cave dweller..

PS - send me a postcard from KASE this weekend biatch! (or next weekend if you forget..or the weekend after...)

 

[rice]

Rice you grumpy ole' Holiday flyer...BAMM!...take that you clown!

You're just jealous.... Gumby aint the smartest guy around but he's pretty cute for a cave dweller..

PS - send me a postcard from KASE this weekend biatch! (or next weekend if you forget..or the weekend after...)

Thats all you've got?????? I'm disappointed, your getting soft. Guess that means Gumby has made you his Biatch when you two "Dwell" together. Does the rest of the family know about this????

 

[Gumby]

Rice you grumpy ole' Holiday flyer...BAMM!...take that you clown!

You're just jealous.... Gumby aint the smartest guy around but he's pretty cute for a cave dweller..

PS - send me a postcard from KASE this weekend biatch! (or next weekend if you forget..or the weekend after...)

G-man......Don't get him all cranked up before beddy bye time! He'll have to sip on some Chamomille tea, to sooth his frazzled nerves....HE LOVES KASE!!:bomb:

 

[Gulfstream 200]

G-man......Don't get him all cranked up before beddy bye time! He'll have to sip on some Chamomille tea, to sooth his frazzled nerves....HE LOVES KASE!!:bomb:

I know..he's shaking uncontrollably as he tries to light a Marlboro and pour a shot of Jim Beam!

"The Man, The Man...he's F'n me and these jackoffs of Flightinfo are busting my balls...ahhhh!!!"