whats going on at Comair?

[doh]

Delta is the Evil Empire.

 

[makersmarc]

Offering buyouts only to eventually shutter the place seems counter-intuitive to me. Yes, they are saving on unemployment insurance costs, but not nearly as much as the buyouts cost.

I talked to an FO that has been here 10+ years. She is taking the buyout ( in the next round). So Comair loses one $41K salary only to backfill it with another one. Where is the savings for the company?

What follows is conjecture (readers are shocked to find that on FI.com): Every $41K salary that gets removed from the payroll can eventually be replaced with a brand new first year FO salary. Most of the people that have been furloughed (I would estimate 90% or more) have found better jobs and /or wouldn't return if invited back.

I do not think Comair is going away, but I do think a lot depends on how our contract negotiations turn out. Delta wants leverage, and a sweet deal with Comair pilots would give them that.

Has everyone forgotten that we are in negotiations? Can you imagine any scenario in which the company (Comair OR Delta) supplies us with any good news?

 

[makersmarc]

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[Flyer1015]

I talked to an FO that has been here 10+ years. She is taking the buyout ( in the next round).

Did she mention where she's going? Had it not been for the Comair MEC's decisions post-9/11, she would have been at Delta 6 years ago.

 

[makersmarc]

Did she mention where she's going? Had it not been for the Comair MEC's decisions post-9/11, she would have been at Delta 6 years ago.

I don't think she has concrete career plans, and many of the people that I know that have taken past buyouts didn't, either. For some reason, the idea of a "buyout" has great appeal to some. "If you go away we will give you a week of pay for every year you've been here, up to 20." Funny thing is that they give me 5 weeks of pay every year just for staying. I don't see the appeal, other than a little (very little) extra coin and an opportunity to look for a job in a struggling economy.

The better possibly exists for those junior people to actually get furloughed and then collect unemployment insurance.

Re: Comair MEC - I strongly agree.

 

[CRJ puppy]

I don't think she has concrete career plans, and many of the people that I know that have taken past buyouts didn't, either. For some reason, the idea of a "buyout" has great appeal to some. "If you go away we will give you a week of pay for every year you've been here, up to 20." Funny thing is that they give me 5 weeks of pay every year just for staying. I don't see the appeal, other than a little (very little) extra coin and an opportunity to look for a job in a struggling economy.

The better possibly exists for those junior people to actually get furloughed and then collect unemployment insurance.

Re: Comair MEC - I strongly agree.

FYI, you are able to take the buyout AND collect unemployment. That's why people are doing it. Among many other reasons that are personal to each individual.

 

[flyboyike]

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Thank you...thank you very much.

 

[comrcap]

where am I and who dressed me like this! Awe crap, missed the van again.

 

[B727Driver]

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Late again.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Did she mention where she's going? Had it not been for the Comair MEC's decisions post-9/11, she would have been at Delta 6 years ago.

She wouldn't have been at Delta regardless of the CMR MEC's decisions....The Delta MEC doesn't want "unwashed" regional pilots that don't jump through the hoops and know the secret password...The CMR MEC did the right thing. The only flowthrough Delta has ever had came from the Compass/Mesaba purchase thru NWA, and the Delta MEC didn't even want that one...It has been terminated.....

 

[Nindiri]

Did she mention where she's going? Had it not been for the Comair MEC's decisions post-9/11, she would have been at Delta 6 years ago.

When did Delta start hiring regional FO's?

 

[Flyer1015]

When did Delta start hiring regional FO's?

OH, they have! Mostly from ASA. Women. Minorities. Previous Delta interns. And/or Delta legacy bloodline.

Rest assured, I'm confirmed multiple cases, both in 2007 hiring spree and last year's 2010 hiring spree that several regional FOs made it with zero TPIC.

 

[JECKEL]

At least two Comair, female FOs were hired in 2010 at Delta.
To my knowlege, neither had jet or turbine PIC time.