What's going on at ATI?

[ABXbooger]

also saw CAT has three 767-200 parked at MCI awaiting conversion. Also a ? it says on the CHI site that they were converting 757's starting summer 2005, what happened to them?

 

[haulingthemail]

Hey Haulingthemail,

Why would you make a statement like that? Why would you joke about the “walls crumbling into tiny pebbles? I don’t know, something doesn’t sit well with that statement. I have too many friends over there depending on a steady paycheck to casually joke about the downfall of ATI.

not the down fall of ATI, but the fact that tiny pebbles might/is moving to MCO.

 

[flyinboxes]

Maybe DHL is just lining back-up for when ASTAR is locked out or walks.

Yep, just lining back- up, whatever that means.

I hope all this comes true. CHI(whoever that is) leases out all kinds and types of planes, ATI buys building 11 and ASTAR and ABX goes to Japan, and 767's fall from the heavens with cargo doors so low paid pilots can take my good paying job.

Rest assured, we will fight to the death if any of this total BS ever does happen. This thread went off the deep end....LOL.

 

[shooter]

That is probably true about the 767s. They were early models of the type and have a lot of flight hours on them.

However, the 757s from TWA ala AA are some of the last ones off the assembly line, circa late 1990s - early 2000s. Those will be nice birds for the carrier that get them after the conversion.

FedEx

 

[PlaneDrvr]

FedEx

Actually, at least 10 of the 27 (I believe that was the total), of the ex-TWA 757 are going to Delta after AA starts returning them to the leasor (starting this spring/summer).

I belive that most are owned by AIG/ILFC corp; and yes, they are some of the last 757 off the line. Delta already pick their a/c and took most of the ER/ETOPs certified airframes. AA final chose to return them (the lease term is up), for fleet standardization; all of AA's original 757s are RB211 powered (the better engines for the 757) and the ex-TWA birds were all PW powered.

DA

 

[shooter]

Actually, at least 10 of the 27 (I believe that was the total), of the ex-TWA 757 are going to Delta after AA starts returning them to the leasor (starting this spring/summer).

I belive that most are owned by AIG/ILFC corp; and yes, they are some of the last 757 off the line. Delta already pick their a/c and took most of the ER/ETOPs certified airframes. AA final chose to return them (the lease term is up), for fleet standardization; all of AA's original 757s are RB211 powered (the better engines for the 757) and the ex-TWA birds were all PW powered.

DA

so those 10 are part of the 13 they were speaking of back in Nov for international routes?

 

[PlaneDrvr]

so those 10 are part of the 13 they were speaking of back in Nov for international routes?

Yes, those are the a/c. I believe that it is only 10, and that is what airlinepilotcentral also states; "sign a letter of intent to lease 10 B-757 from ILFC. Which are the ex-TWA 757s, from AA. As I said, they picked the airframes that were ER/ETOPs certified, to use on their int'l expansion.

The area where Delta is weak, as many analysts (and others) have pointed out, is their 'domestic feed' and hence the recent decision to switch 737 options to B-737-700, to better boost their domestic route structure.

DA

 

[DC8-PFE]

Looks like the 767's are a done deal, from what weare hearing here, They have been pushed back a bit for re-configuration problems (cargo doors) and a shortage of Emron Yellow paint. And the rumors are out of control at ATI about the proposed merger prospects. Thats the latest from this end.....All Rumors I suspect...But.....

 

[shooter]

Looks like the 767's are a done deal, from what weare hearing here, They have been pushed back a bit for re-configuration problems (cargo doors) and a shortage of Emron Yellow paint. And the rumors are out of control at ATI about the proposed merger prospects. Thats the latest from this end.....All Rumors I suspect...But.....

what was proposed?

 

[erichartmann]

I've been told ABX has all the 767 conversion slots locked up for the next several years. They have more slots than the 12 ex Delta 767's they have pruchased. Either they are planning to buy more, or they are planning to convert some of the existing fleet which don't currently have doors.

 

[ABXbooger]

What I understand is IAI has the only 767-200 conversion STC. They have faclities in Israel and I think Brazil. ABX has the entire 767-200 conversion line booked through 2009 or more. As stated previously, the conversion orders exceed the number of frames we have ordered...