What's a good KNEEBOARD?

[Simon Says]

man if that's your woman on that bike, you are a lucky man,, what the hell are you doing chatting on these forums.... you know where you should be right now... lol

She is Good from Far, but Far from Good. It almost looks like she has a dented helmet.

 

[Simon Says]

I wonder what the regionals prefer you?d use during ppl flight training/

Go to the Regional section of this board and ask them. Don't let these PPL tell you what the regional pilots use as a kneeboard. I think that you will really enjoy the answers that you will get, and I know all those regional guys will enjoy sharing their knowledge of what the proper kneeboard is.

 

[Big Duke Six]

Call me a geek but I used a simple ASA flat metal one, just big enough to hold a SMALL legal pad. It had a leg strap, which was great for single pilot freight in turbulence. Some people may not feel a need for one, but I felt more organized having all my info in one spot. Maybe it was a holdover from pilot training in the Air Force. Sometimes I used the cheat info underneath the pad of paper, but hardly ever. If you don't fly often though, that stuff may be of some use, but I wouldn't choose one based on that info alone. You can always add/change the info to what you need.

Wingnutt, ADF's are for music and talk radio over the Rockies at night, not for altitudes! C'mon now!

Mainly you're looking for something on which to copy your ATIS, clearances and weather at any divert airports when those instances arise. Pens get stuffed between your leg and the seat so they don't disappear, and charts, well, those are for when the sun is in your eye and even a welding helmet wouldn't help...

 

[JJJ]

It will feel a little akward the first few times that wear a knee board. I suggest that once you get a knee board, wear it every where you go in order to get used to it.

Before you know it, you will be a walking, talking, living, breathing sportys magazine.

 

[squale]

It will feel a little akward the first few times that wear a knee board. I suggest that once you get a knee board, wear it every where you go in order to get used to it.

Before you know it, you will be a walking, talking, living, breathing sportys magazine.

LOL,,,, that's great advice.. you guys kill me!

 

[guido411]

What would you do or say if you were getting off your airline flight and here's the F/O standing in the door saying his "thank yous" and he has a knee board strapped to his thigh? I'd peek in the cockpit and ask the Captain if he was going to let tha F/O take the training wheels off for the next leg.

Seriously, learn to live without one, get a yoke clip.

 

[squale]

lol

 

[Big Duke Six]

Yoke clip?

LOL, but I've never been able to write on a yoke clip. And trying to read whatever you have that's on there while flying is another trick I never quite mastered I guess.

On the plus side, I do believe a CEO in the back of his yoke-clip equipped Cheyenne came up with The Bobble Head doll idea after watching his pilots flying instruments in turbulence though....

 

[guido411]

Well, for us poor Cheyenne drivers we're gonna have to settle for the yoke clip and writing our clearences on the back of a one-sided Jepp plate. That is until I get to one of those Airbuses like you, Big Duke. I think then I'll just write in dry-erase marker on one of the PFD's, does that work? ;-)

Happy Bobbling!

 

[squale]

Is there any good money in being a pilot WITHOUT working for a commericial airliner?

LIke I hear lots of people complain that they don't make much money being a pilot.. and for something that costs so much for training, I just don't understand why there isn't more money in it for the pilots''

 

[Big Duke Six]

Sorry Guido, I couldn't resist! Actually, I had bought a yoke clip for a Cessna sometime ago, and used it once. That was all I could stand, but it left such an impression that after reading your post, all I could envision was the Bobble Head scene.

 

[guido411]

Poor, poor Squale,

Somebody told you there was big money in aviation? Sorry, is it too late for a refund? I think you're going to starve more at the airlines that anywhere else too, at least in the beginning. You're going to start off as a flight instructor most likely, at approximately $12k - $15k per year (try starting to pay off those loans and it's HELLO TOP RAMEN!! You'll get a pay raise when you go to the airlines at about $18k - $20k per year. After 20 years in the company you'll be set though, that is if the airlines haven't drstically reduced pilot wages yet.

Really though, you'll be so dying to get PAID to fly that you'll MAKE your CFI job work, whatever it takes i.e. 6 roommates, top ramen, second mortgage, whatever. When you get the time put in and get hired by a regional you will get a small pay increase which will be just like icing on the cake, or tassles on the stripper, whatever catch phrase you prefer. One day you will get hired by a major and you will be able to afford those nice things that you're wife couldn't talk you into before.

My problem is I was hired to fly for a regional (read slight pay increase from CFI) then 9-11 happened and I got my training date cancelled. In the meantime I got a corporate job that pays a hell of a lot better and I don't want to take a pay cut to go to the airlines (never really wanted to be a bus driver in the first place. . .I want to be a limo driver) The way I plan on making money at the whole deal is getting on with a fractional (read slight pay DECREASE) to get some type ratings in some bigger airplanes. These people with time and types in big corporate airplanes can eventually command a six-figure salary.

The short answer to your question (that should have been a separate thread) is "yes" there are a million ways to skin that proverbial cat, and the way you end up doing it will most likely be different from the way I do it. it's peanuts in the beginning when compared to the investment you made, but remember it's because you love to fly (or are a glutton for punishment).

Just do us all a big favor, take the CFI job for the sh!tty pay, but don't whore yourself out to that corporation for a little more than you're making as a CFI when they come asking. it undercuts us professional pilots trying to make a living, yes we love to fly too but also love the qulaity of life we've built (are building) for ourselves and nobody likes a scab. you don't have to cross a picket line to be labeled a scab either. Good luck, friend.

 

[guido411]

**CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**, I just re-read my last post, my spelling, grammar, punctuation, and probably arithmetic, if there was any, was absolutley horrendous. See Big Duke, I probably don't need a yoke clip or anything to write on because with all the turbulence and my horrific composition skills I can't read any clearance I write anyway!

No wonder I'm always hearing:

"Cheyenne XXX. . .whose F***ing clearance are you flying anyway?"

"Cheyenne XXX um, er, I seen to be having to radio difficulties, yeah, that's it."

"Sir, are there any NASA forms on board?"

 

[squale]

yeah I am not doing this for a career or for money, just because I love to fly.

I already work full time in the computer field and make pretty good money (about 3 times your CFI salary example), so that's how I can pay for this little hobby that I am persuing.

I HIGHLY doubt I will ever fly for a living, although a job down in the caribbean islands flying tourists from one island to the next or flying for tours wouldn't be that bad of a life. Who knows what kind of pay there is in that either though..

My ultimate plan, get my PPL, save up for a nice LIGHT SPORT aircraft (if that ever gets finanlized by the FAA), and just enjoy my weekends flying around with the wife, etc.

Although, I have considered going back to school to become an AP mechanice and work fixing planes for a living, but again, I have no idea what kind of money is in that either!

 

[100LL... Again!]

Money is no prob-

Just don't blow it all on kneeboards.