What would you do??

[PDH]

Somebody should keep a list of people who work for free like ALPA keeps a list of pilots who cross picket lines. Make it harder for people who work for free to get good paying jobs in the future. Granted, 5.15/hr is not much, but at least you could buy a small term life insurance policy and make your friends rich when you make a smoking hole with your un-airworthy 172's. If you fly for free, you even screw your friends.

 

[Cardinal]

I got paid $16/hr to fly fire patrols 4 years ago. The aircraft are never going to impress you, but honestly, it's a C150 class airplane. If the tires are inflated and the engine runs, what else is there to get you violated?

 

[cforst513]

crap, for $16/hr i would fly a huffy with cardboard wings. that's more than double what i'm making right now...

 

[Cardinal]

You ain't kidding. It beat the hell out of delivering sewing machines, I'll say that.

 

[A Squared]

You should be paid something for the flying. I flew fire patrols and got paid reasonably well. Believe me, there is quite a bit of money being made in this fire patrol contract.

Brings up an interesting point; a few years ago somone posted an ad for a fire patrol job in Maine. Same deal, you fly for free. Somone else popped up and pointed out that according to Maine law, contractors were required to pay thier employees, and he had the documentation to back it up. It was pointed out to Mr. Dirtbag that he would be in violation and in danger of losing his contract. He started backpedaling like a scuttling cockroach.


Where did you say this job was?

 

[gear goes down]

Brings up an interesting point; a few years ago somone posted an ad for a fire patrol job in Maine. Same deal, you fly for free. Somone else popped up and pointed out that according to Maine law, contractors were required to pay thier employees, and he had the documentation to back it up. It was pointed out to Mr. Dirtbag that he would be in violation and in danger of losing his contract. He started backpedaling like a scuttling cockroach.


Where did you say this job was?

Very interesting.

I would like to say were the job is, but if i tell, people in this area will know exactly who I'm talking about. So I'm going to keep it quiet. Unless anyone wants to guess????? If your in this area, you will know...

 

[GogglesPisano]

Isn't he is being compensated with the flight time he is building?

And the downward spiral continues.

 

[mar]

Upon closer inspection, I take it back.

The pay isn’t exactly great, well, its nothing.

Sorry. Apparently I glazed over this little point. I take back my advice. Don't take the job.

I mean, that's not even a job. That's charity.

Good luck nevertheless.

 

[FN FAL]

Brings up an interesting point; a few years ago somone posted an ad for a fire patrol job in Maine. Same deal, you fly for free. Somone else popped up and pointed out that according to Maine law, contractors were required to pay thier employees, and he had the documentation to back it up. It was pointed out to Mr. Dirtbag that he would be in violation and in danger of losing his contract. He started backpedaling like a scuttling cockroach.


Where did you say this job was?

Excellent! That's one issue, however I would like to know how a pilot at a part 91 outfit can determine if an aircraft is "un-airworthy".

Maybe someone can shed some light on that subject matter.

 

[NoPax]

scruffy looking Commanders you'll be rightseating in with the check haulers

Take that back!!! I doubt you have seen most of our Commanders, but about a fifth of them have very new paint - they aren't necessarily color coordinated, but they look a lot better than some other freight haulers.

You can't judge a book by it's cover, they are beautiful from the inside.

And not to hijack the thread -

A 'job' that requires someone with skills, also requires monetary compensation, otherwise you are donating your time, and skills.

I've tried to buy gas in exchange for an hour in a 172, and couldn't stop the guy from laughing...he must have wanted twin time or turbine.

Stop with the 'he's being compensated with flight-time' BS - that's used out of context way too often.

 

[NoPax]

I would like to know how a pilot at a part 91 outfit can determine if an aircraft is "un-airworthy".

Maybe someone can shed some light on that subject matter.

Maybe if the aircraft doesn't have the required paperwork on board for a start - I think a 10 hour student pilot could determine that.

Or if it doesn't have equipment required for VFR/IFR flight.

 

[FN FAL]

Take that back!!! I doubt you have seen most of our Commanders, but about a fifth of them have very new paint - they aren't necessarily color coordinated, but they look a lot better than some other freight haulers.

You can't judge a book by it's cover, they are beautiful from the inside.

And not to hijack the thread -

A 'job' that requires someone with skills, also requires monetary compensation, otherwise you are donating your time, and skills.

I've tried to buy gas in exchange for an hour in a 172, and couldn't stop the guy from laughing...he must have wanted twin time or turbine.

Stop with the 'he's being compensated with flight-time' BS - that's used out of context way too often.

sorry, I didn't mean to pick on a specific opertor...was just tossing out a generalization. I flew a jump plane that had a nickname of "ugly". And it was ugly. I used to call it the "whistling $hitcan". Sorry in advance for the x-word, but it's what it looked like.

Ugly was airworthy and flew great; it was just nasty looking. Eventually, it got painted to match the other jump plane...then it was more airworthy. But it still whistled when you had it slower than 80kts in the climb. It had the horton stol kit on it.

As far as getting paid for doing the work? Jeeze, even minimum wage would be better than nothing.

 

[navigator72]

The place in Maine was at the local FBO in Waterville (KWVL), which by the way is out of business. I flew FP's for a reputable FBO futher Downeast (as the locals call it). There isn't a whole lot of FP's going on in Maine right now, heck we are expecting to have a white Thanksgiving (Doh!)

 

[macfly]

Flying anything for 70 hours a month should be able to pay for an apartment and and a beat up honda, anything else and we have your 'living with mom and dad syndrome' that pisses me off even more than PFT. At least the PFT ladies are out in the open with thier shenaigans.

* Living with mom and dad syndrome* - which can be combined with SJS = "I'll fly that for peanuts and live with my parents and mooooch like some scum bag, meanwhile driving wages into the toilet."

Better yet, the conservation guy should charge 20 bucks an hour to fly his crap cessna. He would have found some one.

Sorry gear down, nothing personal - I want you to get that job and the flying time..im pulling for ya; just dont sell your self short buddy, the government says you can work for compensation, do so brother.

 

[VAPOR]

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What's your life worth?