What should the airlines do?

[paid4training]

What should the airlines do to remain viable in the inflated
Oil price world?

 

[kf4amu]

Raise prices like every other business does.

 

[relief tube]

Raise prices like every other business does.

tough to do when a few airlines don't match because they pay their labor 30% less.

 

[pilotyip]

Raise prices like every other business does.

and reduce the loads, fewer flights, fewer pilots. It will all work out

 

[Amish RakeFight]

What should the airlines do to remain viable in the inflated
Oil price world?

Cut pay. Pilots are the biggest suckers on earth. They'll do anything to fly. That the regionals even exist, makes this self-evident.

 

[jonjuan]

tough to do when a few airlines don't match because they pay their labor 30% less.

Just like Southwest.

 

[Flyer1015]

What do airlines do? Blame labor.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

What do airlines do? Blame labor.

Easiest vairable to mainuplate and control. Just like parents do with their children when times are rough. They're deprived.

 

[Jack Campbell]

Don't forget to blame George W. Bush. He's got to have a hand in this mess somehow!

 

[brokedash]

Demand a government that will outlaw oil futures speculation and force refineries from artficially reduing output of refined crude.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Ailrines are a poorly run ponzi scheme. How any industry persistently in the red survives, has to do with a revolving credit ponzi scheme. They cant just raise prices, as price is not the collective solution. You'd alienenate customers and decrese overall revenue flow by raising prices. They are chipping away with back door, surcharges though.

 

[Varmint]

The airlines should calculate what it costs for gas to drive the city pairs served and add 50-100% to that for the convenience of getting there much more quickly. Keep in mind that fare would be one way. Double it for round trip. The fares should be readjusted weekly based on the current cost of gasoline.

It's a sad industry when you can fly somewhere cheaper than gassing your car up and driving.

 

[BoilerUP]

Oil over $105/bbl and the sky starts falling on Flightinfo...

Nevermind that the cost of fuel (gasoline or Jet) is artificially high right now due to decreased refinery output in response to historically high stockpiles the last few months, or on Valentine's Day crude was around $90/bbl and has spiked nearly 20% in the last 5 weeks due to geopolitical concerns in Egypt, then Libya, then pretty much the entire middle east.

Economic fundamentals are NOT supporting this spike; its nothing more than a play by jackass commodities traders that hurt you and me and put cash in their pocket.

High energy prices place intense pressure on airline profits, but this is a temporary geopolitical spike in the midst of a "self-sustaining economic recovery" - not a super-spike preceding the world's financial markets falling apart.

Don't panic...it will come down in a few months...the sky is NOT falling.

 

[veneratio]

If a business model cannot adjust to market conditions and at the same time pay their employees a competitive salary than that business must fail.

 

[wmuflyguy]

and reduce the loads, fewer flights, fewer pilots. It will all work out

High oil prices do that even if you don't increase the cost of the ticket.

Either you charge what it costs to produce the product or you eventually go out of business. Then you have no flights, and no employees

 

[pilotyip]

High oil prices do that even if you don't increase the cost of the ticket.

but that is what all airlines are doing right now raisingticket prices to cover oil increases, results in fewer riders. Fewer flights.

 

[gator_hater]

It's a sad industry when you can fly somewhere cheaper than gassing your car up and driving.

Forget cheaper than driving, ATL->SFO for $99 is cheaper than hitch hiking.

 

[wmuflyguy]

but that is what all airlines are doing right now raisingticket prices to cover oil increases, results in fewer riders. Fewer flights.

And if they don't they eventually go out of business anyway.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

but that is what all airlines are doing right now raisingticket prices to cover oil increases, results in fewer riders. Fewer flights.

I'm starting to notice it in the grocery store now. Gallon of milk was approximately $2 for the past year or so, this past week it was $2.66

 

[Twisted Mind]

Yip,

What is wrong with less pilots?

 

[pilotyip]

Yip,

What is wrong with less pilots?

you mean less employed?

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Forget cheaper than driving, ATL->SFO for $99 is cheaper than hitch hiking.

The $99 cattle help ballast the heavy wallets up front in first, where they make their real money.

 

[CesnaCaptn]

you mean less employed?

There's going to be a pilot shortage anyway. Even if well compensated pilots resulted in a nominal decrease in the number of desirable jobs, there will still be plenty to go around. It's the race to the bottom and the change in retirement age that resulted in this impending shortage of qualified applicants.

 

[on autopilot]

Kill all the g-damn oil speculators!!!!

 

[ASA_Aviator]

Yip,

What is wrong with less pilots?

Use less with a non-plural noun.

Less money.

Use fewer with a plural noun.

Fewer pilots.

We can't pretend to be professionals when we can't even use the language correctly.

 

[pilotyip]

Use less with a non-plural noun.

Less money.

Use fewer with a plural noun.

Fewer pilots.

We can't pretend to be professionals when we can't even use the language correctly.

barely passed 4th grade speeling, can not get over this lanuage stuff

 

[Twisted Mind]

Ok, what is wrong with fewer employed pilots?

 

[MooneyPilot]

Charge fair ticket price and actual fuel cost for each leg per seat.

 

[BoilerUP]

Charge fair ticket price and actual fuel cost for each leg per seat.

There are so many variables involved in fuel planning and fuel pricing, even with hedging, that make charging ACTUAL fuel expense for each seat per leg totally unfeasible for advance purchase tickets.

 

[Kalifornia]

Just take a look at good ole boy there PilotYip's historical posts to get a perspective of why he believes in having as many pilots around as possible. Instead of helping the profession, he'd rather deep down see everyone else lowered to his sad career. Ole local boy there was completely wrong about how the Spirit Airlines strike would work out. If he could hold a first class medical, I'm sure he would have upped the scab number by 50% as he's expressed regret on here of not crossing the Continental pilots' picket line in the 80s.

Of course it doesn't help his signature proudly continues this unprofessional idea. You know who was flying for just of the fun of it embracing this lackluster attitude with lackluster work conditions? Pinnacle flight 3701 (the 410 flight).