Welcome to Flightinfo.com

  • Register now and join the discussion
  • Friendliest aviation Ccmmunity on the web
  • Modern site for PC's, Phones, Tablets - no 3rd party apps required
  • Ask questions, help others, promote aviation
  • Share the passion for aviation
  • Invite everyone to Flightinfo.com and let's have fun

What role and influence did ALPA serve in AGE 65

Welcome to Flightinfo.com

  • Register now and join the discussion
  • Modern secure site, no 3rd party apps required
  • Invite your friends
  • Share the passion of aviation
  • Friendliest aviation community on the web

BrickTop

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 26, 2006
Posts
554
Curious to the level of influence ALPA played to approve or disapprove congress passing the Age 65 into law.
 
Last edited:
No kidding. Talk about water under the bridge. Age 60 ain't never coming back, so get over it already.
 
Well how about considering that ALPA played such a large role in the AGE 65 law and its effects have rained hell on the regionals and lower portions of the Majors. I find it amazing that ALPA has the guts to push for a Union drive at a few select regional carriers. But then again when did ALPA ever help anyone in the bottom 80% of the industry. I have no sympathy for those few select pilots who made exorbant amounts of money and were still unable to retire and pushed for a 5 year extention destroying the lower 80%. So if I am mistaken on my facts, instead of being a jacka$$ and bashing the thread how about helping to understand the facts of the new law and how it came about. Wait this is flightinfo, I should never have expected anyone to be considerate or courteous. Even on the "Majors" board.
 
I agree, sure there's some switched careers or started late that with their portfolios tanking, sure, but the ********************ers that have been making 6 figures for 30 years who wipe their arse with $5 bills, get the ******************** out and retire, ya greedy bastard.
 
"... instead of being a jacka$$ and bashing the thread how about helping to understand the facts of the new law and how it came about."

Okay. fair enough.

The facts:

- Some people in this industry didn't want to retire at age 60.

- Enough of them got together in the right place at the right time and pushed to change the law.

- Now airline pilots in the U.S are mandated to retire at age 65.

- The End.


Next topic:

The Boston Tea Party. Who helped throw all that tea into the Harbor?


Discuss.


Signed,

YKIMAJ(ack)A(zz)
 
Last edited:
Hi!

If there was no ALPA, the age limit would've changed to 65 at LEAST when it did, and it might have been earlier, as ALPA was a staunch opponent of anything other than Age 60 for a long, long time.

If ALPA campained against Age 65, it would've changed when it did.

So, in fact, ALPA's effect on Age 65, if any, was to delay it's implementation.

Age 65 changed because of 3 main factors:
Most important: The Baby Boom.
Social Security's and Medicaire's financial positions are getting worse and worse all the time, and the gov't need for people to keep working longer to put more money into them.

2-Airlines were going under and/or shedding their labour agreements for retirees, which meant more and more of them were losing their pensions at Age 60, with no sign of money 'til SocSec kicked in down the road.

3-Airlines were going under and/or shedding their labour agreements for retirees, which meant more and more of them were losing their medical benefits at Age 60, with no sign of money 'til Medicaire kicked in down the road.

cliff
GRB
 
Whine Lover;1776663 [U said:
The facts:[/U]

- Some people in this industry didn't want to retire at age 60.

- Enough of them got together in the right place at the right time and pushed to change the law.

- Now airline pilots in the U.S are mandated to retire at age 65.

- The End.

That's about right. Highly motivated, they put their time and money behind their legislative initiative and effected change.

OTOH, only 14% of ALPA pilots support their own political action committee ALPA-PAC.
 
Curious to the level of influence ALPA played to approve or disapprove congress passing the Age 65 into law.

ALPA had zero influence on the subject. The ICAO had already changed its rule. There were pilots over 60 flying in the US already. They just were not American pilots. The ICAO deadline for each member country to change the rule was close. Since the US Congress had voted on and accepted the various agreements that brought the US into the ICAO Congress had little choice but to accept the change. Any other course of action would have been viewed by the rest of the world as a breach of diplomacy. ALPA simply jumped on the band wagon for its own political gain. It was going to happen no matter what ALPA did.
 

Latest resources

Back
Top