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MAR beat me to it. The Great Waldo Pepper is one of the best aviation films, ever. Besides, Frank Price (God rest his soul) did a lot of the flying, most in his Bucker playing Ernst Kessler.

I had the pleasure of visiting with Frank over a five year period in the early ninetys and he always had time to talk. Frank deserves a tremendous amount of credit for getting the US into international aerobatic competition and won the world event sometime in the 50's. He was in Europe with absolutely no support. He showed me a picture made that day during an award ceremony and pointed out that the person holding the American flag was a member of an eastern bloc aero team. Frank had to sell the engine off of his plane in order to afford to get it shipped back to the states.

regards,
enigma
 
Right ON!

Enigma--I clearly don't give you enough credit.

Though I understand your praise of Mr. Price I would've thought any movie that featured *both* Redford *and* Sarandon would've merited Two Big Thumbs Down from you.

Right on!:cool:
 
Best...

Though cheese content is high, Top Gun has to be up there.

Air America too.

Strategic Air Command, Twelve O'Clock High.

Anyone ever see Cloud Dancer? I think it was David Carradine, but a great B movie.
 
That IMAX film "Wings of Courage" is worth a look if you like really well done 3D.
 
best ones

"High and the Mighty", I wish I couild get a good clip of John Wayne slapping Robert Stack and import it to our CRM class as the last step in dealing with an stupid Captain. Gann's other good moive was "Island in the Sky", with John Wayne again, black and white, not much flying, but alot of looking into hte minds of the pilots. "12'O Clock High" is also a favorite becasue it is all almost factual. When Curtis LeLay perviewed the movie he said "The only thing that is not accurate in this moive is the sound of the machine guns, in flight you can not hear them" He had been there and done that. The "Bridges of Toki Ri" is really good if you were ever a reservist called up for active duty, you have to read between the lines of the movie to see the reality of the movie. Mitchner (sp?) was a reserve office when he wrote this book. The rest of thse flying movies mentioned in this thread have too much Hollywood in them, I mean they are watchable but not classics in the sense of the above mentioned.
 
Great...

Now I'm going to have to spend the first couple months of my furlough watching some of these movies I missed!:rolleyes:

I guess HPA will have to wait...;) TC
 
It figures that someone my age would mention The Blue Max with George Peppard. Frank Tallman, the leader of hollywood stunt flying in the 50's and 60's, did incredible work in that film.

Midway, Tora, Tora, Tora, Always, Airplane, Right Stuff, Catch 22 (the movie that taught me the danger of airplane propellers, long before that Indiana Jones sequence), 12 O'Clock High (the movie and the TV show), Strategic Air Command, Memphis Belle, and the Canadian movie that Airplane! was based upon.
 
hughes

i hear they're making a movie about howard hughes' life, called 'the aviator'. but its gonna be a chick flick-leonardo di-crap-rio is gonna play hughes. i think gwen stefani is in it too, but its probably gonna suck.
 
Timebuilder said:
... and the Canadian movie that Airplane! was based upon.
I thought Airplane was a parody of Airport. In fact, I think you'll "get" more of the jokes if you watch Airplane immediately after watching Airport.

:)
 
Robert Hays stars in this hilarious, hugely successful parody of the disaster film genre. The three writer-directors, Jim Abrahams, David and Jerry Zucker took the film Zero Hour (1957) as the basis from which every movie cliche and comic gag could be spoofed.

Watching Zero Hour (sorry I forgot the name earlier) gives you a wild feeling of deja vu all the way through, as the writers lifted the ENTIRE plotline and added jokes that make Airplane! the film we love to quote.

http://www.amctv.com/show/detail/0,,8367-1-EST,00.html
 
The opening scens of "Cast Away" with Tom Hanks is chilling.
 
Don't miss "Its a Mad Mad Mad World". The stunt flying in the twin beech is unbelievable. They actually fly the twin beech thru a billboard, thru a hanger...etc. You probably won't see stunt flying like that again in this age of computer animation. The stunt flying was done by Paul Mantz I believe, he was killed a year later filming "The Flight of the Phoenix".

I'll second "Twelve O'Clock High". It was way ahead of its time, maybe still is. It shows how the stress of war actually broke some men...unheard of back then.

Although not really aviation related, another Gregory Peck movie to see is "The Man in the Grey Flannel Suit". About a New York business man in the 1950's comming to terms with his experience in WW 2 (great flashback war scenes).
 
Don't miss "Its a Mad Mad Mad World". The stunt flying in the twin beech is unbelievable. They actually fly the twin beech thru a billboard, thru a hanger...etc. You probably won't see stunt flying like that again in this age of computer animation. The stunt flying was done by Paul Mantz I believe, he was killed a year later filming "The Flight of the Phoenix".

I can't tell you who went through the billboard, but it was Frank Tallman that smashed through the hanger with the glass doors.
 
A little poking around found this...

http://www.centennialofflight.gov/e...rs_and_Daredevils/movie_stunt_pilots/EX26.htm

Paul Mantz is undoubtedly the most famous stunt flier in Hollywood history. Mantz earned more than $10 million during his career. Shortly after washing out of Army Flight School in 1927 for buzzing a railroad car, Mantz moved to California and started his own charter air service. He originally found it difficult to break into movies because he was not a member of AMPP. To get union officials to notice him, he set a new world record of 46 consecutive outside loops in July 1930. Soon after, he became a union member. Although Mantz performed many stunts, he specialized in flying through buildings. In 1932, he guided a Stearman plane through a 45-foot-wide aircraft hangar for the film Air Mail. Notably, in a different facet of his aviation career, Mantz won the Bendix Trophy Race three times between 1946 and 1948.


By the late 1950s, although Mantz was still Hollywood's leading individual stunt pilot, he decided to join forces with another outstanding stunt flier named Frank Tallman. Together, the two men formed Tallmantz Aviation in 1961, a new stunt flying operation. Tallman did some of his most outstanding individual stunt work for the 1963 movie It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, World. Some of his stunts included taxing through a plate glass window and flying a plane though an aircraft hanger. The most elaborate trick he performed for the film was flying an airplane through a billboard.

Mantz and Tallman's collaboration did not last long. In 1965, the two men were working on the movie Flight of the Phoenix when Tallman, who was supposed to fly a landing sequence in the Arizona desert, shattered his kneecap during a fall at home, and Mantz took his place. On July 8, Mantz was performing the landing when one of his aircraft's wheels hit a small, sun-baked, mound of sand and caused him to lose control. The aircraft "nosed in" killing Mantz instantly. Tallman, heartbroken by the accident, blamed himself for Mantz's death.

A few days after Mantz's crash, Tallman faced his own individual tragedy when doctors amputated his leg because of a massive infection that had resulted from his broken kneecap. Despite the loss of his leg and his close friend, Tallman retaught himself how to fly using only one leg and returned to stunting. In subsequent years he worked on such films as The Blue Max, Catch 22, The Great Waldo Pepper, and Capricorn One. On April 15, 1978, Tallman, age 58, lost his life during a routine flight when he failed to clear a ridge near Palm Springs, California, due to poor visibility.

Many other Hollywood aviators have established their own unique stunts over the years. Some have specialized in parachute stunts. Others, like Jim Gavin, have become experts at performing helicopter tricks. And still others have worked with such unique devices as "rocketbelts." Undoubtedly, there will be many more stunt pilots who will go even farther than these performers, and each will owe a debt to their predecessors. Thanks to the pioneering aviators of the movie industry, future stunt fliers will have a strong union, strict safety guidelines, and guaranteed wage scales that will help them succeed in the movie business and movie goers will continue to be treated to many more aerial thrills.

--David H. Onkst

Sources and further reading:

Dwiggins, Don. Hollywood Pilot: The Biography of Paul Mantz. Garden City, N.Y.: Doubleday and Company, Inc., 1967.

Farmer, James H. Broken Wings: Hollywood's Air Crashes. Missoula, Mont.: Pictorial Histories Publishing Company, 1984.

________. Celluloid Wings: The Impact of Movies on Aviation. Blue Ridge Summit, Pa.: TAB Books, Inc., 1984.

Glines, Carroll V. Roscoe Turner: Aviation's Master Showman. Washington, D.C.: Smithsonian Institution Press, 1995

Grace, Dick. Crash Pilot. London: Longmans, Green and Co., 1956.

________. I Am Still Alive!. New York: Rand McNally and Company, 1931.

________. Squadron of Death: The True Adventures of A Movie Plane-Crasher. Garden City, N.Y.: Doubleday, Doran and Company, Inc. 1929.

Greenwood, Jim and Maxine. Stunt Flying in the Movies. Blue Ridge Summit, Pa.: TAB Books, Inc., 1982.

Kessler, Lauren. The Happy Bottom Riding Club: The Life and Times of Pancho Barnes. New York: Random House, 2000.

O'Neil, Paul. Barnstormers and Speed Kings. Alexandria, Va.: Time-Life Books, 1981.

Ronnie, Art. Locklear: the Man Who Walked on Wings. South Brunswick, UK: A.S. Barnes and Company, 1973

Schultz, Barbara Hunter. Pancho: The Biography of Florence Lowe Barnes. Lancaster, Cal.: Little Buttes Publishing Co., 1996.

Skogsberg, Bertil. Wings on the Screen: A Pictorial History of Air Movies. San Diego: A.S. Barnes & Company, Inc., 1981.

Wynne, H. Hugh. The Motion Picture Stunt Pilots, and Hollywood's Classic Aviation Movies. Missoula, Mont.: Pictorial Histories Publishing Company, 1987.

McClain, Stan. "A History of Hollywood's Aerial Cinematography." http://www.stan-mcclain.com/airhist.htm

"Dick Grace," 486th Bomb Group. http://www.486th.org/Photos/crew/DGrace.htm

"Paul Mantz: King of the Hollywood Pilots." http://www.cineramaadventure.com/mantz.htm

"The Pilots." http://www.rocketmaninc.com/pilots.htm

"Tallmantz Aviation Collection." Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences. http://www.Oscars.org/mhl/sc/tallmantz_173.html
 
Re: A little poking around found this...

Timebuilder said:
Some of his stunts included taxing through a plate glass window and flying a plane though an aircraft hanger.
All those references, and they still can't spell this aviation word correctly.

Did he fly through some type of device designed to suspend an airplane from a ceiling or structure? NO. He flew it through a special type of building used to protect airplanes from the elements - - an airplane garage, if you will. We call that a HANGAR.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :) :)

Sorry... the trycto... tricto... tri... whatever that stuff in turkey is.. is kickin' in, and my pet peeves seem to be getting the best of me.

Happy Turkey Day ! :)

EDIT: OH, and the other one. Was he imposing a toll or service charge while he was passing through the plate glass window? No, he was maneuvering his airplane on the ground, a term which we all know as taxiing. (not TAXING - - should we envision a tax collector waving a wire coat hanger?) How do writers like this make a living?
 
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It's tryptophan, and I know what you mean about errors by writers.

I'm reading a VO book, and I'm getting ready to call the publisher and offer to proofread the book for the next printing. I have over 50 errors so far. Way too many for a professional piece.
 
Firebirds ?
not bad, but I'd go with Flight of the intruder in 3rd place, Topgun in 2nd and The Right Stuff NUMBER ONE!

...but then I remember, Firefox, Bat 21, Iron Eagle (no, wait that was cr@p), AIR AMERICA !, Airplane ...etc :D
 
Stephen Coonts

I just finished his book Saucer , and if they ever made it into a book, it would be a hoot. Has anyone else read it?
 
bandit110 said:
The opening scens of "Cast Away" with Tom Hanks is chilling.
You mean the part where the MD-10's #2 mysteriously keeps running after the airplane has hit the water and disintegrated? Must've been a poltergeist.

Maybe the same poltergeist that moved the fan to the front of the inlet.

(Their technical advisor had been doing a teriffic job. Did he suddenly go on vacation?)
 
Does anyone remember a movie about a news tv helicopter pilot who sees a bank robbery and the bad guys take off in another helicopter. The pursiuit if some of the best action helicopter flying including landing on cliffs, into and out of hangars, etcc. A good B movie but great photography
 
Does anyone remember a movie about a news tv helicopter pilot who sees a bank robbery and the bad guys take off in another helicopter. The pursiuit if some of the best action helicopter flying including landing on cliffs, into and out of hangars, etcc. A good B movie but great photography


I think it was called "Birds of Prey".
 
12 O'Clock High
 

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