What is American Connection?

[00Dog]

I bought a ticket from St. Louis to Louisville and I'm on American Connection. The plane is an MD-80. Which airline is this?

 

[vja217]

If its an MD-80 and a direct flight, then you're flying mainline AAL. Flights 2803/2835?

Or maybe they have the aircraft type messed up, and you're on Chautaqua (known as "American Connection"), flying an embraer.

Max

 

[KingAirer]

Im sure the AAers can answer better, but possibly your connecting? and flying on a COnnection carrier on one leg. I think they are listing the ticket under an AX or Connection code to get around some scope or something. So possibly if you had one mainline and one connection flight, traditional you would see your ticket as AA, but now AA has done this reverse code share and its showing AConnection...

...Or maybe its a Typo!

 

[EagleRJ]

You are flying on Chautauqua Airlines, with service provided by their codeshare partner, American Airlines. It will be an AA MD-80 with an AA crew, but the flight code will be AX. No, the flight attendants probably won't say "welcome aboard Chautauqua Airlines" on the PA.

Yes, this is an idea conjured up by the company to sidestep the Allied Pilot's Association's scope restrictions. It's called "reverse codesharing".

And yes, the pilots of AA and Eagle have a huge problem with it. Look further down for other threads about this.

 

[H8U]

Yeah, you gulfscream pukes really help things along, dont you?

 

[H8U]

Well, weasels like you dont have to worry about getting sucked into jet engines do they? Of course, you could get a job on the ramp....

 

[MINIME]

C'mon people lets be realistic!
The fact is that just about everyone that's on this board that works for a regional is taking flying from the guys at mainline, right or wrong, like it or not. ACA- growing at UAL's and DAL's expense. Comair-growing at DAL's expense. ASA-growing at DAL's expense. Skywest-growing at UAL and DAL's expense. Penacle-growing at NWE's expense. COEX-growing despite furloughs due to downflow, at CAL's expense. EAGLE- adding more and bigger regional jets because of the reverse code share which frees up ASMs for them to do it, despite furloughs cause of downflow. American Connection-growing because of reverse code share which exempts them from ASMs. The list goes on and on. It is twisted and doesn't look good for us regional guys who want to go to a major. However, it looks even worse for those guys at the majors who lost their jobs with no end in sight.

Just my .02

 

[H8U]

Thats just silly, gulfstream is the scum at the bottom of the pond, and exists for the sole purpose of sucking 18K from some aspiring pilot, only to flush them down the toilet after 250 hours. That doesnt exist at any other carrier, and thats the reason they are total garbage. PFT is bad enough, but the fact that they can them after 250 hrs just proves that they are not a serious airline and exist only to take $$. Then they have the ballz to tell their students that they are more marketable because anybody who flies as a CFI or charter pilot is wasting their time in pistons. Just because Pinnacle takes them on, they all think they are on the fast track to the majors, and it is a load of crap.

DONT compare them to a real airline because they are not!

 

[MINIME]

H8U my apologies and I concur
It was not my intention to compare that .......hmmmm...airline down there to all the other respectable regionals mentioned. I was merely stating what I percieve as fact about trends of today's industry. I'm just tired of seeing some of these regionals' pilots headbanging each other in a lost cause and not realizing to some extent that they are doing the exact same thing (outsourcing jobs from the majors) although to be fair, NOT INTENTIONALLY.

 

[H8U]

Yeah, I agree, they sound like a bunch of whiny b1tches sometimes dont they?

 

[FL000]

C'mon people lets be realistic!
The fact is that just about everyone that's on this board that works for a regional is taking flying from the guys at mainline, right or wrong, like it or not. ACA- growing at UAL's and DAL's expense. Comair-growing at DAL's expense. ASA-growing at DAL's expense. Skywest-growing at UAL and DAL's expense. Penacle-growing at NWE's expense. COEX-growing despite furloughs due to downflow, at CAL's expense. EAGLE- adding more and bigger regional jets because of the reverse code share which frees up ASMs for them to do it, despite furloughs cause of downflow. American Connection-growing because of reverse code share which exempts them from ASMs. The list goes on and on. It is twisted and doesn't look good for us regional guys who want to go to a major. However, it looks even worse for those guys at the majors who lost their jobs with no end in sight.
Just my .02

Perhaps it's just semantics, but I beg to differ that I am "taking" any flying from anyone. Management is shifting the flying in my direction in an effort to keep the (parent) company alive. Don't you think that if DAL, or anyone else, could fill 6 or 8 757s and 767s on every single city pair they'd do it??? That would be best-case scenario for everyone. Don't make the formula complicated. It's really not at all.

 

[KingAirer]

Thats an interesting point. WHo says its Mainlines routes?? Maybe it was their route 5 years ago...But does it make it theirs? I think as soon as the economy shifts more positvely those routes will once again be flown by mainline pilots. The mainline can obviously not run profitable on some of these routes, and if not for some of the reigional carriers they would lose the route and lose money. I dont think anyone is at fault here except the economy.

 

[MINIME]

FL000 I totally agree

None of us at the regional level have any control whatsoever about the current situation. Furthermore, none of us want or like to see any of our brothers loose their jobs no matter what they fly. Yes, it is true that the current economy is totally dictating what needs to be flown and where in order to keep the parent companies alive. I would like everyone to know that there was no malice intended on my previous post towards any pilot anywhere! My intention was merely to state the reality of what's really happening whether we like it or not. Yes, when the economy gets back on its own two, it is feaseable that we will see those beautiful giants once again cluttering the skies.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

American Connection is Chautauqua, flying ERJs, Corporate Airlines flying J-32s (19 seater) and Trans States Airlines, flying ERJs, ATRs, and J-41s (30 seater). American did this to save money as it is cheaper service than AA or AAEagle. They used to be TWAExpress before.

The reverse code-sharing is AA's way of getting around an APA seat-mile limit on AA feed.

The mainline unions could have prevented this if they would've insisted in their contracts that ALL flying be done by the mainline, and would've been willing to fly ALL aircraft for their airline, from 19 seats on up, and had realistic wage scales for all aircraft, from 19 seats up to the wide-bodies.

Cliff
GRB

 

[TurboS7]

H8U,
Boy do I have your number, terrible Gulfstream guys, SCABS, calling names. Usually that means that you are one yourself, so I would say by your attitude that must be some kind of SCAB and that you also were a PFT, but shucks, you didn't make it. Tough life isn't it. Enjoy.

 

[TurboS7]

I pulled up all of H8U's post, all he tries to do is say something about everything, everyone, and everybody, with an attitude straight from h*ll. He wants to be nothing but a pest so let him do his thing and he'll go away, to pop up as somebody else. Sure fun slamming him though as he has pissed everyone off.

 

[Airline Pilot27]

How paradoxical

A scab and his gulfstream apprentice agree that they are not destroying the once honorable aviating profession.

 

[TurboS7]

If it is not honorable anymore then why are you in it???

 

[Airline Pilot27]

REPENT FOR YOUR SINS SCAB