What hours got you in the door

[dasburt]

For all of you fellow aviators that have been hired and are awaiting a class date or have started class, how about posting your hours you had when you interviewed and the company that hired you..

Oh yea congratulations to all of you on getting hired.

 

[BRA]

1525/500.....with colgan air in august. They hired me. same time with ACA in august, they gave me the no thank you letter 3 weeks later. I actually did way better on the ACA interview. Well now I am flying regular lines with colgan, I have atleast 75 hours of flying in november. I'll have about 200 turbine by the time I would have started class with ACA. And by next summer I'll be about to upgrade, if things are still going good. And since colgan pays for a hotel, and more $ per day in training, I'm not as broke right now either. I wanted the ACA job though, and won't know for a long time which one would have been better for me over time. We'll see.

 

[dasburt]

Thanks for the info BRA.

What is the average monthly FO pay at colgan and their bases?

 

[Otto]

Times

I had 1200 total/1000 ME turbine when I got picked up by Comair last Feb. I was right at the minimums but it shows they factor in other things besides hours when evaluating your experience level. I would think with your Navy training and P-3 experience, you shouldn't have a problem...just be patient...it was several months before I heard back from Comair.

 

[BRA]

$1500 per month for the 1900. That's the 75 hour gaurantee. Saab pays a little more, and they are interviewing for both planes i think. Check the website for bases i guess, they have a lot. Syracuse is a new one. All over the northeast. It is all changing a lot, due to expansion. Which is a good thing. Keeps it exciting. I really having nothing bad to say about the company at all.

 

[spike]

1500/300 a little turbine

I don't care what anyone says. Persistance pays. Systematically send out your stuff. Follow the rules and pray. Got hired two months ago.

 

[bobbysamd]

Quals that got me interviews

First off, I was in the market twelve years ago. I never was hired, but I had interviews. I had my first interview, in 1990 with WestAir/United Express, with 2800 total, 630 of multi, and my ATP. In those days, most commuters wanted 1500 total/500 multi and your ATP.

Hope that adds perspective.

I agree with Spike 100%. Keep sending materials. Send every time you add 100 hours. Send if you earn a rating. Without fail, send when you earn your ATP. Send materials if you move. Send a fresh app every year. Just be careful to adhere to the company's rules on updating and, above all, read the d@mn instructions for when and how to update.

Best of luck with your job search.

 

[pmoffitt]

While we are on this subject

While we are on this subject, how do the airlines feel about people sending in their resume slightly under the published mins?

Example, Comair, their published mins are 1200\100 I think. Their time from resume submission to interview is about 2 months at minimum. Is it OK to submit at say 1100 or so hours, knowing that most likely before the I would get called for an interview I would have well over the mins(Even though the chances of getting called for the interview at mins is pretty small).

Do companies look at people whom submit resumes before the mins as rule breakers and can not follow guidance? Do they assume that since they can not follow the rules of submitting your resume at the right time, you may have an issue of following the company op spec rules later? Or do they look at early submitters as go-getters and enthusiastic people who are excited about the possibility of working for XYZ company?

 

[tacojet]

pmoffitt,

Just send it out, it shows interest in the company. If you have a flying job you'll have the time soon enough. Just update when you've got the time. Sometimes the minimums are not set in stone anyway, you might get a call.

 

[xjcaptain]

Similiar to a previous post, I was hired at Mesaba in '95. I had 2800 total and 500 multi. Had been sending resume's for years.

 

[Otto]

Re: While we are on this subject

While we are on this subject, how do the airlines feel about people sending in their resume slightly under the published mins?

Example, Comair, their published mins are 1200\100 I think. Their time from resume submission to interview is about 2 months at minimum. Is it OK to submit at say 1100 or so hours, knowing that most likely before the I would get called for an interview I would have well over the mins(Even though the chances of getting called for the interview at mins is pretty small).

What you described is exactly what happened to me...I had just over 1,000 hours on my resume but they called anyway and by the time I started class, I had over 1,200. I could argue that since most of my time was military and we don't log taxi time, that I really did have closer to 1,200 to begin with anyway. They have some discretion and flexibility on the minimums but getting them to budge in this day and age will only happen if you have some unique experience (eg. jet time, complex heavy equipment, etc.). I don't think it will ever hurt you though to send a resume early, especiallly if you're in the ball park...nothing ventured, nothing gained!

 

[g159av8tor]

When I was hired at Phoenix Air (Atlanta, GA) in Oct. 1999 I had 1420/300; all but about 210 hours were dual given. I hired on at ACA in Apr. 2002 with about 4000/2400, 2100 turbine all SIC

Tailwinds...

 

[bobbysamd]

Send it in anyway

I don't remember encountering any regional that specifically proscribed sending in materials if you did not meet its quals. Believe me, I did it. I received postcards stating that I did not meet the mins. I sent resumes to Mesa and to American Eagle before I made their mins. I kept sending resumes and eventually interviewed with both. Did the same with SkyWest, got no interview, met and exceeded its mins thrice over, and never got an interview.

I would do it - unless the airline specifically proscribes sending in materials for below who do not meet its mins.

 

[LearLove]

Hired in 99 by Allegheny.

Was flying traditional 135 charter as Capt in a PA31-350. Had 2000tt and 1000 multi. The multi was 250 sic and 740 pic in a PA31-350. Ratings were ATP and CFI. 4 year degree, 24 years old.

My first job at 350tt was charter sic in a Navajo, but I instructed, and did traffic watch on days off to build total time. At one time I had 4 flying jobs (2 CFI, 1 traffic and 1 charter) at once, but those were different times.

Now I'm a down graded Capt at ALG. My pay this year has gone from 47.61/hr to 29.85/hr to 27.01/hr. At about 1100 pay hours per year thats more than 22,000 in pay cuts.

(($47.61-$27.01) X 1100 pay hours/year) = $22660

or $52,371 per year to $29,711 per year. OUCH!!!!

And to push the knife in my gut alittle deeper several of us at Allegheny (including myself) were hired almost 2 years ago by Airtran ( when nobody wanted to go there) but we turned it down because "good things were going to happen here". Thoes of us left in this group have been placed on suicide watch.

O well at least I've got a job, I'll just keep telling myself, "I love my Dash, I love my Dash.........untill I show up at my parents door. "mom I'm home....don't get paid enough to live on my own....but I'm responsible for hundreds of pax per day....oopsd not anymore...now I just put the gear up and shutup"

 

[LearLove]

And too whine allittle more......

If i'd gone to _______ when got hired here I'd be ________

1. ACA - Dojet or CRJ capt, 50 something per hour
2. ASA (would of had to pay so out of the ? but) junior Jet capt, ATR capt, senior 120 Capt.
3. Comair (would of had to pay so out of the ? but) jet capt.
4.Whisky - 328 capt / 146 fo
5. Mesa - 145/crj capt
6. Chit - jet capt
7. TSA - jet capt? not sure, most likley 41 capt
8. Piedmont - same **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** position
10. PSA - junior capt???
11. Shuttle Am - ???? saab capt ????
12. Colgan - beech capt
13. Skywest - jet FO
14. Great Lakes - would have shot myself in the head by now
15. exp1/pin - saab/jet capt
16. Mesaba - ???? 146 fo
17. Coex (the only job I've ever been turned down for, interviewed in late 98) - jet capt
18. Eagle-Jet FO

So just about anywhere else I'd be pulling 50$hr as a jet capt. Luck of the draw I guess. Choose wisely my friends.
The stink of it is, ALG was my first choice.......it time to start drinking heavley......off to Cross Roads.

 

[AAflyer]

Lear Love,

You just never know. The short time I was at Eagle I flew with a captain who had it rough. We talked a bout 727s one day, I told him I had been on the 727 for a few companies, he said he had been a captain on it, and a captain on the A300 and 757. Eastern.

Here is the kicker. He had been hired at UAL in the early 70s and furloughed, Eastern was hiring the qualified 727 guys, so he went. UAL recalled him a couple years later. He had figured why would I go back to little old United. He retired at eagle as a Saab Captain.

At the end of the trip he said he didn;t think about it and had no hard feelings, but would have been 30 on the sen list on the 747-400. He would have retired before all this garbage with a bucket load of money.


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