What happens to the Compass flowthrough, if NWA Merges?

[kman]

Have some friends over at compass, whats going to happen if NWA merges? Does the contract address this?

 

[SpauldingSmails]

It would depend on what NWALPA MEC negotiates with merged carrier. No one really knows for certain. Even if a merger were to be announced it would be a long time before the two one legged men are sewn together so to speak. Look at US West/East.

 

[browneye]

compass is going to be sold to republic anyway.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

compass is going to be sold to republic anyway.

You've been waiting since May '06 to make this your first post?

 

[Occam's Razor]

The language says "successors or assigns".

It survives. Like all contract provisions, it can be modified or removed by the MEC.

 

[N2264J]

Re: What happens to the Compass flowthrough if NWA Merges?

It survives.

How can you be sure? The new airline will have to negotiate a new agreement, right?

 

[JoeMerchant]

.....like everything..... it is negotiatable...... I wouldn't want to be in a Compass seat when this defication hits the 6 speed rotary occilator.........

..... it will be yet another lawsuit against ALPA......

 

[koepp]

compass is going to be sold to republic anyway.

Compass Can't be sold for a long time unless the language in the NWA contract changes. Obviously, anything is possible in a merger senario.

 

[Hovernut]

All your flowthrough are belong to us!

 

[DrewBlows]

How can you be sure? The new airline will have to negotiate a new agreement, right?

It's in the contract. An acquiring company has to abide by the existing contract. If you had to negotiate a new contract every time an airline changed hands, management would simply sell the company every time it wanted concessions. If two (or more) pilot groups have to be merged, that would have to be negotiated.

 

[lookin4better]

compass is going to be sold to republic anyway.

I hate to say it but I think history might back up this one......ala Mid Atlantic

one of the reasons I did not go to the interview this spring

of course I fully admit I could be wrong...just a guess, good luck to all who went there! We are all just trying to get to that final job

 

[Airline Driver]

With in the next 5 years of our every changing industry, there will most likely be 1 or 2 less legacy carriers and a few less Regionals as well. All because of mergers and or acquisitions or perhaps even a couple of bankruptcy's. Not something we all want to hear but I think it is a pretty reasonable assumption.

"AS THE PROP TURNS" Not a bad name for a reality series huh!! All we need now is a producer and a contract and we could all supplement our incomes pimping ourselves out to NBC on a new hit reality series. imp: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[N2264J]

Re: What happens to the Comapss flowthrough, if NWA Merges?

It's in the contract.

When I said "agreement" I meant contract.

A merger will trigger the renegotiation of the new contract for the new emerging airline giving management yet another chance to hack away at labor.

If I'm not mistaken, the Northwest MEC will be negotiating on behalf of the Compass pilots.

 

[Occam's Razor]

How can you be sure?

Because it's a law thingy.

The contract(s), both NWA and CPZ, can't be changed unilaterally. They can only be changed with concurrence of both parties. (Aside: That's the ugly truth in the former-TWA pilots gripe with "ALPA")

Speaking only in the purest legal sense, the RLA prevents the new combined carrier from abrogating any contracts unless the contract permits it (section-by-section). For example: Contracts can contain triggers that require new pay rates, or a release from Probation for members, if a merger takes place.

In the case of NWA and DAL, Section 1 contains "successorship" language that keeps all sections intact unless modfied by BOTH parties. The CPZ contract goes further, and defines who the "parties" are.

The new airline will have to negotiate a new agreement, right?

At some point, of course.

I think your question is: Would the current agreement be modified as a pre-condition to consummating the merger?

My guess: Probably.

As a Scope-hating lawsuit-lover, you probably see any such pre-nup as another chance for "ALPA" to stick it to you.

As a pragmatist, I see it as an opportunity to recover some of things we lost in Chapter 11, that would protect and enhance this career. Investors and the new Board will pay to achieve Labor peace.

 

[N2264J]

At some point, of course.

Yes, and sooner rather than later. Otherwise, in the Delta-NWA example, whose work rules would be used when the deal is consumated? Whose pay rates? Whose benefit package? How about conflicting scope clauses?

A new consolidated contract will have to be negotiated. So how can you be sure about anything currently in the NWA agreement?