What happens if US air dies?

[HanSolo]

I am sending this out to all you pilots who have seen the ups and down of this industry many times. If US air liquidates, what do you think will happen to the assets such as psa? I know that noone has esp and can't say for sure, I am just curious as to what the opinions might be.

Thanks

 

[BusterHymen]

Just my opinion, but I think that USAir would not be missed, the same way Eastern and Pan Am have been forgotten by most people. I worked at Pan Am myself, and miss it dearly, but most people today just want to get from point A to point B for as cheap as possible. There is no loyalty to any one airline anymore by customers, and employee morale is in the dumps due to the numerous concessions placed upon them by management.


Good luck to all the USAir employess out there!

 

[General Lee]

Some fares would go up and gas prices would go down for awhile.



Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[HanSolo]

I am not really asking about the industry, I am actually trying to get an idea of what you all think will happen to the wholly owned pieces. Who will buy them, etc.?

 

[sandman2122]

Rumor has it FedEx will buy there 737's.

 

[abe44]

General,

How do you figure that gas prices would go down?

I'm not saying they wouldn't...just wondering how you came to that conclusion.

Abe

Some fares would go up and gas prices would go down for awhile.



Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

abe,


How much gas does USAir and subsidiareis use each day? All of that would stop, and we would have a surplus---and prices would fall for awhile. Supply and demand.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Jeff Bretzer]

youve got to be kidding me, you really think in the grand scope of Aviation that the amount of jet fuel that a 350 airplane airline like US Air would stop using if they ceased operations suddenly would have any tangible affect on the supply or the cost of Jet fuel , thats ludicrous...

 

[abe44]

General,

I'm no economist, but here's my take:

Jet fuel prices are tied to crude oil prices, and crude oil prices are tied to the supply (ie ,the ability to get it out of the ground) as well as the ability to refine/process it. What affects the price even more are the global markets (with the associated speculating). There are probably a million other things that affect these prices...but again, I'm not an economist.

I'm pretty sure, though, that one mid-sized U.S. carrier liquidating would have almost zero affect on fuel prices....kinda like pissing in the ocean wouldn't change the average ocean water temperature.

Just my 2 cents...(probably not worth even that much!)

Abe




How much gas does USAir and subsidiareis use each day? All of that would stop, and we would have a surplus---and prices would fall for awhile. Supply and demand.


Bye Bye--General Lee[/QUOTE]

 

[General Lee]

Abe and Jeff,


I disagree, but I am not an expert (you heard it here first) in the oil business. I think that there would be an increase in supply after one legacy carrier stops flying, and that would translate into some sort of price drop. I think there is a spot market for jet fuel (LA Jet Fuel Spot market?), and that would absolutely decrease. How much? I don't know.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[mach zero]

I am not really asking about the industry, I am actually trying to get an idea of what you all think will happen to the wholly owned pieces. Who will buy them, etc.?

I think the WO's will be left to fend for themselves with a majority going out of business. You will see companies like Mesa and Chatakeaway surivive but will drop their prices to pick up other codeshares that will keep their ex-USAir airplanes flying. In other words things will get worse in the regional industry while the ex-USAir commuters try to out-lowbid each other.

 

[HalinTexas]

Jet fuel prices are tied to crude oil prices

I have heard that jet fuel prices are more closely tied to home heating oil. Add about $0.18 per gallon of hho and you get jet A on the open market.

 

[Dave Siegel]

Rumor has it FedEx will buy there 737's.

Rumor has it that you're grammar is really bad. I know, it's YOUR grammar, but sandman wouldn't know the difference anyway.

FedEx will buy they're 737's? FedEx will buy THEIR 737s! Where did you go to school? Was it with Half-pint at the school near that little house on the prarie?

I hope you're a good pilot, because I cringe at the thought of you trying to make it as an English teacher.

 

[SWAnnabee]

I thought all SWA employees were laid-back!?!

Rumor has it that you're grammar is really bad. I know, it's YOUR grammar, but sandman wouldn't know the difference anyway.

FedEx will buy they're 737's? FedEx will buy THEIR 737s! Where did you go to school? Was it with Half-pint at the school near that little house on the prarie?

I hope you're a good pilot, because I cringe at the thought of you trying to make it as an English teacher.

Lighten up, Francis.

 

[Rock]

Hey Shakespeare, you misspelled "prairie".

 

[SWA/FO]

Thats why we fly airplanes guys. Cus' we aint be spelling good.

 

[jball2]

A Note From a SWA CP

During EPT yesterday, the CP said that it is official that we are going to do a short term (1-2 year) lease on 30 USAirways -300s. He said we can get them all in 7 days if we want them that fast. HE also said that FEDEX opted out on them.

They said the deal was signed. However I have learned that signed today is torn up tomorrow. Who knows?

I think I'll go try to cut Ty Webb off on a taxiway now!

JB

 

[crashpad]

USAir Has made tons of concessions, will probably make tons more, and now is poised to be given more 'float money'. If they can't make it with that business model, I'm gonna be nervous.

 

[banned username 1]

YEAH, BABY!!!! Now THAT's the Board I remember!!!

UAL78

 

[RUhiring?]

Hey Shakespeare, you misspelled "prairie".

Funny as hell. Rip on a guy for misspelling a word, and misspell a word while doing it!

 

[Sy-bill]

According to another thread Dave Siegel just got invited to an interview at SWA.

So I wouldn't confuse him with an employee.

 

[canyonblue]

Lighten up, Francis.

He's NOT a Southwest pilot.

 

[Dave Siegel]

He's NOT a Southwest pilot.

Maybe not, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night!

Prairie--at least I'm big enough to admit I make mistakes from time to time.

 

[321 busdriver]

Hi Jeff, I agree with you totally. And we only have 279 mainline jets.

youve got to be kidding me, you really think in the grand scope of Aviation that the amount of jet fuel that a 350 airplane airline like US Air would stop using if they ceased operations suddenly would have any tangible affect on the supply or the cost of Jet fuel , thats ludicrous...

 

[dash8driver]

what happens is all the upper management that screwed the place gets their bonuses, buys a new mercedes, and find another company to hose over. meanwhile all the employees are screwed.

 

[capt. megadeth]

I think I'll go try to cut Ty Webb off on a taxiway now!

JB

Ha ha.....that's funny! Made my day.

dash8......that's exactly what will happen....you said it!