What does it take to get on with ASA???

[boomlrd]

I need to get on with ASA or Comair, can anyone tell me what it takes?? I am already a F/O on a 727 with a part 121 carrier, I love the easy commuting from here in FL, for either of those airlines. I keep emailing my resume' but no response. Anyone got any ideas??

 

[Saluki Dawg]

I'm sure that if you just explain it to them the way you did to us, that they will hire you right away. They're actually looking for someone that wants an easy commute from FL. I'm not sure why you're having a problem.

 

[JetPilot_Mike]

If you only have 1100 hours, you don't meet the Comair mins for getting hired. Better slave away on the "B727" for a couple more months and build some time. Better than using an Aztec for multi anyday.

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

Why would you want to leave a 727 job for the regionals anyway? Do you fly for a cargo or supplimental right now? More than likely your current pay is probably more than the regionals.

 

[boomlrd]

Its all about QOL for me, and this place doesn't have it. You are gone most of the time, no schedule, 24/7 they can call u up, etc. low pay too! Yes it is an unsched night cargo op. I will take low pay at a commuter to have a schedule and a senority system, there is none here. Plus u get to work with only the aviation industy's finest!

 

[UPSer]

Its all about QOL for me, and this place doesn't have it. You are gone most of the time, no schedule, 24/7 they can call u up, etc. low pay too! Yes it is an unsched night cargo op. I will take low pay at a commuter to have a schedule and a senority system, there is none here. Plus u get to work with only the aviation industy's finest!

Do you work at CAT?

 

[Traumahawk]

I'll take ure 727 non-sched job RIGHT now!


....Of course, then I'll get there and complain about pay, work rules, Fed Ex and QOL...

Sh!t, nevermind, I'll stay here...

T-Hawk

 

[boomlrd]

Thanks for the productive input

I was just hoping for some ASA or Comair guys to shed a little light on how they got a call, nevermind my reasons for wanting to be there, but to each his own. Did you have Letters of recomendation? Did you Fax in a fancy cover letter?? etc. I know not to call, I am sure they hate that. There has got to be some little thing I can do to show them how much I want to work there.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

My resume and cover letter were faxed in. I got a call for a phone screening less than a week later, and the application the next day (today) via FedEx. I'm in the process of getting the application together now. I have 2200 total time with 1400 in Citations, some PIC. Best of luck.

 

[701EV]

Boomlrd,

It would help if you know someone. However, I was hired and didn't know anyone. I had 2200hrs tt. We have about 1700 pilots now and you probably know somebody here. I would see if you can find someone from where you went to school or where you did your flight training.

Good Luck,

701EV

 

[ILStoMinimums]

Boomlrd,

It would help if you know someone. However, I was hired and didn't know anyone. I had 2200hrs tt. We have about 1700 pilots now and you probably know somebody here. I would see if you can find someone from where you went to school or where you did your flight training.

Good Luck,

701EV

Not to hijack to thread, but how does somebody get a 727 job with 1000 hrs or less? Looks like you did your networking! All the best with ASA!

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Not to hijack to thread, but how does somebody get a 727 job with 1000 hrs or less?

I can only make one guess....and it includes 3 letters....PFT. If that is the case, hopefully ASA will frown on it...but who knows.

 

[~~~^~~~]

ASA is not hiring many pilots right now. My guess the best way to get hired at ASA is to have a Delta seniority number. The next best way is to have a connection with one of the connected power players in the airline ( seems like Interns and folks in Ops who made the right friends have an "in" with lower times )

However, with only 1,000 hours it is going to be tough - sorry - wish that I could give you better news. The airline is awash with resumes from furloughed mainline pilots and a lot of good guys from the fallout at the US Air regionals.

Heck, a former associate of mine with several type ratings, at least 1,000 part 121 PIC, and a letter of rec. from the Senior Chief Pilot was recently turned down for a job.

But, keep sending in your stuff. They seem to be fairly objective in their selections and being "connected" obviously doesn't mean what it used to. It has to be the right connection and even most of the Captains here don't have that.... Heck, if I had to apply to ASA right now with over 1,000 121 PIC they might not pick me, the job market is nuts right now.

~~~^~~~

 

[SkyBoy1981]

A friend of mine was offered a position after interviewing back in August. He had around 2100 hours and 500 multi..mostly in turboprops. According to aviationinterviews.com most of the folks being hired are over 2000TT and 500ME as well....with 135 or 121 time. At the moment it seems that you need well above the website minimums to get in the door with ASA. I'm getting ready to return my completed application tomorrow. I have my fingers crossed.

 

[boomlrd]

Yea, guess I will just keep trying

I know its tough to get in there right now, lots of guys on here seem to think its one of the better regionals so I am sure its pretty competitive. Thanks again for your input.

Oh yea, by the way for those of you who love to say "PFT", I got three letters for you, its called "WIA", look it up, its a government grant program that will get you type ratings or whatever you need, thats how I got in. Takes alot of research to find these government deals, but if its available and I can have it for free, why not? Oh yea, and I am not a minority, anyone can do this!

Thanks again to the guys and gals on here with something legit to say!

PEACE!

 

[PalmettoPilot]

ASA Interview

2000 and 500 seems to be a good mix for ASA. I was sending in my stuff for almost a year and once I got over 500me I got a call within a week of sending my resume. I sent via fax and email, as well as an internal LOR.

Good luck!

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Yeah..I don't know what the ratio of applicants being interviewed is to the number being hired, but I got the call for a phone screening 6 days after sending the resume via fax. After the phone screening the application arrived next day via FedEx.

 

[sweptback]

ASA is not hiring many pilots right now. My guess the best way to get hired at ASA is to have a Delta seniority number. The next best way is to have a connection with one of the connected power players in the airline ( seems like Interns and folks in Ops who made the right friends have an "in" with lower times )

How many per month is ASA hiring now? Last I heard was 20/month for the forseeable future, but that was a few months ago before all he!! broke loose.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

If those 25 RJs are indeed coming next year, we should be hiring for a good portion of next year. Along with the fact that we are actually having Capts move onto Air Tran and such.

 

[bailout]

ASA is not hiring many pilots right now. My guess the best way to get hired at ASA is to have a Delta seniority number.

We had slowed to ten amonth for two months, but now are ramping up for 20 a month again next month. They are limiting the number of Delta guys now, because they dont want a mass exit when they get called back. Many guys getting hired with @ 1,500 hours now. Competitive mins are dropping again.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

We had slowed to ten amonth for two months, but now are ramping up for 20 a month again next month. They are limiting the number of Delta guys now, because they dont want a mass exit when they get called back. Many guys getting hired with @ 1,500 hours now. Competitive mins are dropping again.

Well, thats good news.

 

[73belair]

You still bought your job dude! It does not matter if you paid for it or your mom or pop. Even a rich uncle sam. You still paid for your job. And that hurts all the pilots trying to make a living.It is wrong because it sets a bad example to younger less experienced pilots. It tells them, that it is ok to take short cuts even if it hurts your fellow pilots. Your low pay and crap schedule is because the company you work for now has nothing to lose. They didn't spend a time to train you, so why do they care if you are happy and enjoying your job. They do not have a 20k investment in you. You leave big deal. Now the company that pays for their own pilots...Now they have something to lose.


You made your bed, you sleep in it!

I don't think at ASA people will have much of a problem with someone PFT. A good number of the people who were hired before Delta did PFT. Get over it.

 

[I Hate Freight]

Oh yea, by the way for those of you who love to say "PFT", I got three letters for you, its called "WIA", look it up, its a government grant program that will get you type ratings or whatever you need, thats how I got in. Takes alot of research to find these government deals, but if its available and I can have it for free, why not?

Free? It's not FREE. Somebody is paying for it. Guess who?

IHF

 

[gear_guy]

You still bought your job dude! It does not matter if you paid for it or your mom or pop. Even a rich uncle sam. You still paid for your job. And that hurts all the pilots trying to make a living.It is wrong because it sets a bad example to younger less experienced pilots. It tells them, that it is ok to take short cuts even if it hurts your fellow pilots. Your low pay and crap schedule is because the company you work for now has nothing to lose. They didn't spend a time to train you, so why do they care if you are happy and enjoying your job. They do not have a 20k investment in you. You leave big deal. Now the company that pays for their own pilots...Now they have something to lose.


You made your bed, you sleep in it!

Give me A break dude! I know you're a gold seal ATP and all (ahem...), but you would do the same thing. If you could get a free type rating, you'd do it. You would be stupid not too. Granted I would have done a 737 type, but whatever. Anyone that says this is PFT is just jealous. You probably have an app on file with Southwest don't you?

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Someone who does their research and is awarded such a grant is certainly not to blame for taking it. The problem is, instead of combining their training paid for by the grant with other earned experience and getting hired by a quality company, they choose to go to work for an outfit that only hired them because the training was coming out of someone else's pocket. Going to work for this type of an outfit supports a practice that brings our entire industry down, and hurts pilots everywhere.

 

[SEFlyer]

I know its tough to get in there right now, lots of guys on here seem to think its one of the better regionals so I am sure its pretty competitive. Thanks again for your input.

Oh yea, by the way for those of you who love to say "PFT", I got three letters for you, its called "WIA", look it up, its a government grant program that will get you type ratings or whatever you need, thats how I got in. Takes alot of research to find these government deals, but if its available and I can have it for free, why not? Oh yea, and I am not a minority, anyone can do this!

Thanks again to the guys and gals on here with something legit to say!

PEACE!

You don't get a job flying a 727 with less than 1000 hours and just a type rating. You paid for something, and my guess it was training. You may have already had the type rating, but you paid for something. No one hires for a 727 with less than 2500 hours and an ATP, which you obviously don't have.

 

[ILStoMinimums]

You don't get a job flying a 727 with less than 1000 hours and just a type rating. You paid for something, and my guess it was training. You may have already had the type rating, but you paid for something. No one hires for a 727 with less than 2500 hours and an ATP, which you obviously don't have.

I think its all who you know in the day and age and money can do a lot.

 

[FL000]

ASA is not hiring many pilots right now. My guess the best way to get hired at ASA is to have a Delta seniority number. The next best way is to have a connection with one of the connected power players in the airline ( seems like Interns and folks in Ops who made the right friends have an "in" with lower times )

However, with only 1,000 hours it is going to be tough - sorry - wish that I could give you better news. The airline is awash with resumes from furloughed mainline pilots and a lot of good guys from the fallout at the US Air regionals.
~~~^~~~

Not so according to multiple sources in training. They can't get enough apps from qualified pilots. They recently interviewed someone with 300/12 (not an intern). No joke. Also, I'd say 20 per month for 15 months is more than "not many."

 

[gear_guy]

You don't get a job flying a 727 with less than 1000 hours and just a type rating. You paid for something, and my guess it was training. You may have already had the type rating, but you paid for something. No one hires for a 727 with less than 2500 hours and an ATP, which you obviously don't have.

Like I said....jealous.

You wish you could be in the same position Mr. 1000 hour cfi.

Until someone has credible info that this guy paid for training I think all the naysayers should shush!

I'm sorry, but I'm just tired of everybody flaming people without all the information in hand.

 

[cynic]

It turns out the right stuff is $60K

http://www.flightsafetyacademy.com/main/index.php

Good luck!