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IFLYASA said:
What I want (Non TA'ed items)

1. 100% Retro
2. Skywest Rates plus a percentage
3. Scope
4. Duty Rigs
5. Keep our existing aircraft
6. Retirement
7. Skywest to admit we are the lowest operator
8. No more lies from management
9. A resignation from BL and CT
10. The mediator to release us
11. Better paid rampers that will stay and give a darn
12. Lastly, a better contract and better treatment for our lowly paid F/A's.


A SIGNING BOUNUS AND #3

701EV
 
atlcrjdriver said:
Tcat, if you actually believe that we will gett 100% retro then you really did ride the short bus to school. A signing bonus is allot more realistic.


Ok, a signing bonus equal to what 100% retro would be.
 
IFLYASA said:
Ok, a signing bonus equal to what 100% retro would be.

Unfortunately, if we don't get a payraise, then there would be no "retro" pay, just a signing bonus.

Trojan
 
What ever, if we don't get something soon then we all aren't going to have a job to bi_tch about. ALPA needs to come off some and realize that we aren't going to get everything. It's time to put everything out on the table. You all know that if we don't get something in the next few weeks then it's going to be after the first of the year before we can meet with the mediator again. Give us something and let us vote on it, if we don't like it then we'll tell you. The old guys shouldn't be in charge of what we get.
 
IFLYASA said:
What I want (Non TA'ed items)

1. 100% Retro
2. Skywest Rates plus a percentage
3. Scope
4. Duty Rigs
5. Keep our existing aircraft
6. Retirement
7. Skywest to admit we are the lowest operator
8. No more lies from management
9. A resignation from BL and CT
10. The mediator to release us
11. Better paid rampers that will stay and give a darn
12. Lastly, a better contract and better treatment for our lowly paid F/A's.

Are you kidding me......... You are a moron and this shi_t contradicts itself.
 
goahead said:
What ever, if we don't get something soon then we all aren't going to have a job to bi_tch about. ALPA needs to come off some and realize that we aren't going to get everything. It's time to put everything out on the table. You all know that if we don't get something in the next few weeks then it's going to be after the first of the year before we can meet with the mediator again. Give us something and let us vote on it, if we don't like it then we'll tell you. The old guys shouldn't be in charge of what we get.

Old guys!!!!????

Old guys!!!!????

You crack smoking moron!!!!

Half the pilot group are FOs!!!

The CNC is composed of volunteers. If you don't like the way they are doing their job, fire them.

How many meetings have you attended?

How many conversations have you had with the CNC members??

Old guys!!! What a stupid f***!!!

EVERY SINGLE GOOD THING ABOUT YOUR MISERABLE A** EXISTENCE AT THIS COMPANY WAS WON IN THE LAST CONTRACT BY A BUNCH OF "OLD GUYS" AS YOU LIKE TO CALL THEM.

You stupid F***!!!
 
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goahead said:
NEXT,
sorry if I offended your old ass....


Hee Hee Hee

cough cough

HACK

What was it we were talking about???

Where's my viagra??
 
I asked this before in all seriousness: What would the scope wording be for a wholly owned regional? I mean you have no control over the DL brand, you have no control over the Skywest brand.

Really curious as to how it would be worded.
 
I want the 30 day cooling off period, now.
 
atlcrjdriver said:
Tcat, if you actually believe that we will gett 100% retro then you really did ride the short bus to school. A signing bonus is allot more realistic.

Uhhh, Exjet got it! Why don't we deserve it exactly? Oh yeah, you are a "guttless wonder" that would be happy if BL came over to your house and said what a nice job you were doing.....ah, that is all you needed right. You would be fine without anything else, yeah, and I rode the "short" bus! Dumb@ss!
 
SSDD said:
I asked this before in all seriousness: What would the scope wording be for a wholly owned regional? I mean you have no control over the DL brand, you have no control over the Skywest brand.

Really curious as to how it would be worded.

I believe that it would go along the lines of...."with ANY of our airplanes that they are trying to move over to skywst, they are going to have to ONLY be flown by ASA pilots. This would STOP any "Alter-Ego" BS and give us the protection WE need! Now of course it will be full of lawyer speak, but more or less!;)
 
The solution to all our problems is for the ASA pilot group to rise up and snap to action. ALPA is a gun without bullets, and this is why we haven't had a contract in 4 years. Pilot apathy is huge here. Everybody is still doing everybody else's job. Pilots are still flying broken airplanes. Pilots are in the crew lounge and on the internet whining about ALPA. Management sees this stuff. Why would they settle, they're not feeling any pressure.

It's time to put the pressure on them. Talk to those of us who were here in '98 in the crew lounge. ASA asked to resume negotiations a week after we got parked, then settled because the pilots shut this place down.

We will not get a contract until management feels the heat. When will the pilots begin to back the negotiating committee?

It's time for ASA pilots to get off our a$$es and participate!!!!
 
John Pennekamp said:
It's time for ASA pilots to get off our a$$es and participate!!!!

I´ve been saying this for 4 yrs!!! How do you get 1800 pilots to do this?!?
I partly blame the local branch of ALPA and whole heartly blame ALPA national for not giving us any support.....atleast not up in DC where it really counts!!
Until the pilot group gets pissed off enough to actually act on their anger nothing is going to happen. I would like to say it is the proffesionalism of our pilots, but I think it really boils down to laziness.
Sad state we are in.
 

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