XTW said:Per Diem is not pay!!! When will people stop doing themselves the disservice of including it in their pay computations!quote]
X, relax. All he said was you get $40K a year plus you also get per diem. Whether we like it or not, per diem can and is viewed as a compensation by some and not by others. Since you don't have to pay tax on it, it is a free compensation as long as you work for an operator who pays for your hotels and you get crew meals on your flights. Now if you don't, then I agree with you that it is not. If you don't get crew meals and hotels paid by the company you work for, then it is time to look else where. The last sentence is not directed at you since I state "you" in there, just a comment for all who will read this.
P.S. Cosmo, how is the 604?
cosmotheassman said:And, by the way, our pay is more than $154 a day...
Lets please stick to the subject at hand here XTW, which is schedules and pay at Flexjet. If you want to argue per diem pay, create your own thread.
That's not the way it was written. He said 40,000+ with per diem. At $154/day for 219 days, he has to be including per diem with his salary to get to around $40,000+.
My gripe is that employers love to hear employees talk this way, as they have a better chance of paying a lower salary knowing the employee is going to count on his/her per diem towards a total salary. Per diem was meant to be a way of offsetting expenses while on the road, not to help feed the family at home. I've flown with some that do it that way and they live like survivalists on the road instead of the professional human being they are.
I am not upset with anyone for doing this. Each person makes their own choice on how to live. I just feel they are hurting their own cause by doing so.
BTW, the first year pay I quoted was from AirlinePilotPay.com. Sorry if it is incorrect. Correct me then, what is first year pay, other than an overtime day.