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Crash Pad

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There has been some discussion on this board that assumes SWA gets nothing and Airtran gets a "windfall". So I thought I would start a thread that explains what Airtran can do for the SWA pilot group.

Here is my short list:
1. Of all the airlines based in Atlanta we have the hottest flight attendants. This is undisputed (ASA: Fail, Delta: would have won in 77' with there current group)

2. Overnights: SWA has a world renowned reputation for being a rolling frat party. To the point they have gotten soft. Take away the 1,2,3 rule and SWA folds like french prize fighters. We can teach you skills like: giving your FA herpes, getting onto your FA's balcony when she locks you out of the front door, and what to do with 18 hours in CAK (that last one will save your life).

3. Security: Per capita Airtran has more FFDO's than any other airline. We already have gunracks in the cockpit. What do we bring to the table you ask... peace of mind.

4. Financial planning: Do to your pay you most likely have piles of money sitting in your mattress. We have a group of pilots who have great opportunities for you and your money. See once you get a few people below you...
See we have had to be crafty while you have been sitting fat, dumb, and happy...
seriously think about it, if you only had 20 people below you that would be 100K for doing nothing!

Those are just some quick thoughts... Other Airtran guys can chime in.

Note to SWA guys: we got it. You're bringing free bags, money, work rules, bla bla bla...

Let me handle those one at a time.
Money: How much do you need? Answer: More

Work Rules: Hey I came to Airtran for one reason. Atlanta base. That is all the work rules I need. Spend most nights at home. As I said earlier you always need more money. I'm sure your Captains complain about taxes and how they are barely getting by with the ex-wife, taxes, child support, yacht payment etc...

Free Bags: Yeah some may have forgotten but I haven't. SWA ruined a monday night game by showing that commercial with Airtran every five minutes. BURN IT DOWN! My pride is worth something.
 
Welcome to the best Airline in the World! I'd like to add that our training center is not a "house of pain" like the one in ATL.
 
Well as another side note. AirTran is bringing one FO thats happy to be part of a combined team that will be able to take on any airline that challenges us. Together we're going to be great and I look forward to being a part of it. Bottom line is that both sides have their "tools" to deal with, but after all is said and done 99% of us like to work hard, do a good job and go home to our families. If we both agree to take the SLI as it is done and move on then all will be good. Lord knows we have examples of how not to do it. Happy flying to all.
 
Hopefully some of our key management is left behind or it would be like infecting Southwest with Herpes. You guys will hold it over our head forever!
 
slaquer5 said:
I am thinking a lot more on this board need to follow that lead and do the same. We are all on the same team now, like it or not. JMO :)
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Hear Hear! I know there are going to be guys on both sides who are pissed about how the SLI will go down. Not everyone can be happy and someone is going to have to take a turn in the proverbial barrel. But when all is said and done, we are only going to be great if we push together rather than pull apart.
 
Airtran brings airplanes that have the ability to earn the same revenue as any Southwest Jet. They have crews that are trained to fly into any cities that SWA operates into and more. They are established in more cities and are ready to add to the 800 lb gorilla, it should be at least 968 lbs after the integration of companies. I look forward to getting to know the Airtran crews and working together.

When I got hired at SWA I was excited. I am excited for the Airtran folks, and excited to get the opportunity to put our operating efforts together on the same team.
 
asaflyer said:
Well as another side note. AirTran is bringing one FO thats happy to be part of a combined team that will be able to take on any airline that challenges us. Together we're going to be great and I look forward to being a part of it. Bottom line is that both sides have their "tools" to deal with, but after all is said and done 99% of us like to work hard, do a good job and go home to our families. If we both agree to take the SLI as it is done and move on then all will be good. Lord knows we have examples of how not to do it. Happy flying to all.
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Bingo!
 
Amen!

Negotiate in earnest to get as close to possible to what each side considers "fair", but in the end, we all need to accept the SLI when it's done and move forward.
 
ASADFW7 said:
Airtran brings airplanes that have the ability to earn the same revenue as any Southwest Jet. They have crews that are trained to fly into any cities that SWA operates into and more. They are established in more cities and are ready to add to the 800 lb gorilla, it should be at least 968 lbs after the integration of companies. I look forward to getting to know the Airtran crews and working together.

When I got hired at SWA I was excited. I am excited for the Airtran folks, and excited to get the opportunity to put our operating efforts together on the same team.
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Well said. I plan to do the same. You will get nothing but enthusiasm from every FO and the majority of CA's at Airtran regardless of the vocal minority who hate every body even when in front of a mirror.
 
Crash Pad said:
There has been some discussion on this board that assumes SWA gets nothing and Airtran gets a "windfall". So I thought I would start a thread that explains what Airtran can do for the SWA pilot group.

Here is my short list:
1. Of all the airlines based in Atlanta we have the hottest flight attendants. This is undisputed (ASA: Fail, Delta: would have won in 77' with there current group)

2. Overnights: SWA has a world renowned reputation for being a rolling frat party. To the point they have gotten soft. Take away the 1,2,3 rule and SWA folds like french prize fighters. We can teach you skills like: giving your FA herpes, getting onto your FA's balcony when she locks you out of the front door, and what to do with 18 hours in CAK (that last one will save your life).

3. Security: Per capita Airtran has more FFDO's than any other airline. We already have gunracks in the cockpit. What do we bring to the table you ask... peace of mind.

4. Financial planning: Do to your pay you most likely have piles of money sitting in your mattress. We have a group of pilots who have great opportunities for you and your money. See once you get a few people below you...
See we have had to be crafty while you have been sitting fat, dumb, and happy...
seriously think about it, if you only had 20 people below you that would be 100K for doing nothing!
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This stuff is pure GOLD! Maybe you guys can give a online class to us SWA dudes once we get the SLI worked out! I really need help on balcony climbing! I fell last time, had to call in sick for a month. :)
 
Ty Webb said:
Amen!

Negotiate in earnest to get as close to possible to what each side considers "fair", but in the end, we all need to accept the SLI when it's done and move forward.
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Once the initial shock wears off, I think we are already moving a bit towards the middle. I'm looking forward to being the 946 lbs Gorilla.
 
With AirTran comes PCL128 and his vast knowledge of all things ALPA, before long everyone in SWAPA will realize what they have been missing.

This will be of great benefit!

(I really wonder if he's already peeling the ALPO stickers off his flight bag)
 
Pitch Wheel Steering

Just to worn you guys at Airtran there are some guys on the 737 that just can't give up the Pitch Wheel Steering. Just be patient vnav will eventually take hold.
 
T45, the 946# gorilla is Carol in crew scheduling. I will apologize for her right now. On another note, I bought the biggest bottle of Wild Turkey last night to celebrate.
 
JA'd said:
Just to worn you guys at Airtran there are some guys on the 737 that just can't give up the Pitch Wheel Steering. Just be patient vnav will eventually take hold.
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And then there are the guys who don't know its called "Control Wheel Steering." :rolleyes:
 
CMonBoard said:
T45, the 946# gorilla is Carol in crew scheduling. I will apologize for her right now. On another note, I bought the biggest bottle of Wild Turkey last night to celebrate.
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I saw in the SEC filing that the deal is null and void if Carol stayed. She could single handedly bring down LUV with her breath.
 
Lets get to the serious stuff...Can AT pilots use Auto-brakes 1 setting on the NG's ? Can AT Pilots use the QC-2 headset ? Do your crews do room parties ?
Which is your best/worst layover hotel ?

All kidding aside, Welcome Aboard....we'll get this worked out.
 
No auto brakes on the 717. And the air hoses at our gates are for cooling off the brakes after a new hire lands in Midway and not for cooling down the airplane. Almost all our layovers are the worst layovers. One of the biggest fights we were having with the company was our hotel selection.

While the pay is going to be a big plus for our pilots, the idea of a company attitude where the pilots work hard for the airline and the airline works hard for the pilots is almost a bigger plus for me. I look forward to drinking the LUV juice. It was almost always LAV juice here at the tranny.
 
ASADFW7 said:
Airtran brings airplanes that have the ability to earn the same revenue as any Southwest Jet. They have crews that are trained to fly into any cities that SWA operates into and more. They are established in more cities and are ready to add to the 800 lb gorilla, it should be at least 968 lbs after the integration of companies. I look forward to getting to know the Airtran crews and working together.

When I got hired at SWA I was excited. I am excited for the Airtran folks, and excited to get the opportunity to put our operating efforts together on the same team.
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You sir are a class act. I am looking forward to working with people like you.
 
This whole "Tranny" thing confuses me. I thought I knew what it was when my computer got a virus and redirectred my browser to a "Tranny" site. Now I'm all confused?!? :rolleyes:

Seriously, disregard the 5% on both sides who preach doom & gloom. I'm lookin' forward to seeing some old buds again, as well as sluggin' down some Turkey with my new bros'.
 
Gotta say, this thread has to be the most appropriate and encouraging thread I've read in years on FI. I'm starting to feel slightly LUVed...forgot what that was like. Good luck to all of us, it's gonna be a kick-ass operation once we put the next year of integration behind us.
 
Being the 946 lb or 968 lb gorilla depends on if you doing PD90x or if it is still in the box after you ordered it finishing off a late night pizza and a 2 litre bottle of Coke. Personally, I need to lose a few pounds.
 
T45Flyer said:
Once the initial shock wears off, I think we are already moving a bit towards the middle. I'm looking forward to being the 946 lbs Gorilla.
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Don't look behind you.....Too bad there are 2 1000 pound gorillas taking people to places other than Texas. Hate to burst your domestic bubble.
 

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