Waterski went waterskiing off the runway again in YOW

[rettofly]

The plane I fly has no landing data for TR's, yet they are installed. Of course landing distance will be shorter, but it's not in our books.

If memory serves, the certification protocol in FAR 25 doesn't give credit for TRs. Landing plan must be done without considering TR.

 

[flyn96]

While that would be a good thing, I don't see any other airlines sailing off the end...

American in the Caribbean last year, I believe a few in Brazil? ICAO needs to adopt grooved and crowned runways as a global standard!

 

[say again]

If memory serves, the certification protocol in FAR 25 doesn't give credit for TRs. Landing plan must be done without considering TR.

Correct. :beer:

 

[CaribPilot]

Lol @ the name of this thread.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Dont know 'bout their ops, but we'd have to use wet data on an ungrooved runway should it be raining. You must use it if they are reporting 'runway(s) bare and damp', or 'bare and wet'..

Pretty sure by using the thrust reverser credit vs. no credit would improve the numbers by quite a bit. TSA should use either operator-factored (post MDW) or actual landing lengths before landing.

 

[91100 100 set]

Does the 145 not have a known gremlin that will drive the steering hard-over on occasion? I seem to recall a memory item from my time in that fine airplane.

But yes, it is asinine that many runways in Canada, the Great White North of all places, are not grooved.

 

[pair_of_pratts]

The official government response on why the runways aren't grooved in Canada is because of the snow and ice would cause more damage to the surface. Guess nobody from the government has ever been to or used the internet to see that Anchorage has grooved runways.