Want health insurance ? Not at Mesa

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

New health plan out this week -

Pilots will pay nearly $1600 per month for health insurance !!! This doesn't include dental, vision or life insurance.

 

[brokedash]

Holy S--- that is a lot. Is that just for the employee or family?

 

[redflyer65]

Either way, that's outrageous.

If new hires are competitive at other regionals over this. When you don't get paid anything at first year pay how can you expect to get insurance? I suspect JO wants all those low cost employees on Obamacare.

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

Either way, that's outrageous.

If new hires are competitive at other regionals over this. When you don't get paid anything at first year pay how can you expect to get insurance? I suspect JO wants all those low cost employees on Obamacare.

That's for the family / the "Cadillac" plan. Which is more like an old SUV with a Cadillac logo.

 

[N4niner206]

New health plan out this week -

Pilots will pay nearly $1600 per month for health insurance !!! This doesn't include dental, vision or life insurance.

I am unhappy about the insurance too, but I'm not sure that I would say this blanket statement fully represents the truth.

I'm noticing an over-generalization of the "facts" from Mesa pilots lately... Highlighting the worst aspects and passing them as the "norm". Things aren't great here by a long-shot, but what people post is definitely worthy of a grain of salt.

On the other forums someone stated that all of the 4-day trips are "13 to 17 hours". Yet I dont believe their are ANY 4-day trips worth 13 hours, and system wide there are far more trips worth more than 20 than there are less than 17. I don't think there were hardly any worth 17 hours... And yes I looked at both US and UA systems and only found a handful. While unfortunately most in the US system were between 18 and 19, that's a big difference from 13. Am I saying that these are things we should be proud of? NO! This place is far from great. But a lie/embellishment/intentionally misleading others is wrong regardless of however noble your "cause" or agenda may be.

That said, we have a lot of issues to iron out in this contract negotiations and I'm personally ready/willing to strike if/when that opportunity comes. But I'm tired of reading loaded statements from Mesa pilots. Seriously, some of you guys are as bad as the media.

 

[LearLove]

1600? So what's a first year guy bring home then after health ins and taxes, 300 bucks? Something doesn't sound right.

 

[N4niner206]

1600? So what's a first year guy bring home then after health ins and taxes, 300 bucks? Something doesn't sound right.

See my previous post.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

See my previous post.

Smokescreen!

 

[N4niner206]

Smokescreen!

Huh?.....

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Your 'previous post' does not answer the question.

 

[rene]

Mistated facts

New health plan out this week -

Pilots will pay nearly $1600 per month for health insurance !!! This doesn't include dental, vision or life insurance.

Once again you are grossly distorting the facts. First of all you are comparing apples to oranges. The previous plan had a $25,000 cap and is no longer available under the new law.

Mesa offers numerous options including plans at $49.50 per month.


paychecks each month. They are shown below:
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Value A EPO Plan​

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Value B EPO Plan​

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60% EPO Plan​

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[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]

Premium EPO Plan​

​

[/FONT]​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]

Premium PPO Plan​

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[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]Employee Only [/FONT][/FONT]

$59.50​

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$49.50​

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9.5% up to $150*​

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$199.00​

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$221.50​

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[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]Employee plus Spouse [/FONT][/FONT]

$274.50​

​

$214.50​

​

$441.00​

​

$603.50​

​

$666.50​

​

[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]Employee plus Child(ren) [/FONT][/FONT]

$249.50​

​

$174.50​

​

$359.00​

​

$447.50​

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$542.00​

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[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]Employee plus Family [/FONT][/FONT]

$299.50​

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$229.50​

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$545.50​

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$748.00​

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$822.00​

​

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Once again you are grossly distorting the facts. First of all you are comparing apples to oranges. The previous plan had a $25,000 cap and is no longer available under the new law.

Mesa offers numerous options including plans at $49.50 per month.


paychecks each month. They are shown below:
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Value A EPO Plan​

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Value B EPO Plan​

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[/FONT]​

[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]

60% EPO Plan​

​

[/FONT]​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]

Premium EPO Plan​

​

[/FONT]​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]

Premium PPO Plan​

​

[/FONT]​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]Employee Only [/FONT][/FONT]

$59.50​

​

$49.50​

​

9.5% up to $150*​

​

$199.00​

​

$221.50​

​

[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]Employee plus Spouse [/FONT][/FONT]

$274.50​

​

$214.50​

​

$441.00​

​

$603.50​

​

$666.50​

​

[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]Employee plus Child(ren) [/FONT][/FONT]

$249.50​

​

$174.50​

​

$359.00​

​

$447.50​

​

$542.00​

​

[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]Employee plus Family [/FONT][/FONT]

$299.50​

​

$229.50​

​

$545.50​

​

$748.00​

​

$822.00​

​

Do you guys have any limit on the percentage you pay, or can they just charge you whatever they feel like? The amounts for employee plus family($545.50, $748.00, $822.00) seem outrageous! If a junior first officer has a family, how much is left after health care costs to pay the rest of the bills?

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Massive ripoff. You'd almost be better buying from a $500 million website disaster that should work now. It's called Obongocare.

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

Once again you are grossly distorting the facts. First of all you are comparing apples to oranges. The previous plan had a $25,000 cap and is no longer available under the new law.

Mesa offers numerous options including plans at $49.50 per month.


paychecks each month. They are shown below:
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Value A EPO Plan​

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[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]

Value B EPO Plan​

​

[/FONT]​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]

60% EPO Plan​

​

[/FONT]​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]

Premium EPO Plan​

​

[/FONT]​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]

Premium PPO Plan​

​

[/FONT]​

[/FONT]​

[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]Employee Only [/FONT][/FONT]

$59.50​

​

$49.50​

​

9.5% up to $150*​

​

$199.00​

​

$221.50​

​

[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]Employee plus Spouse [/FONT][/FONT]

$274.50​

​

$214.50​

​

$441.00​

​

$603.50​

​

$666.50​

​

[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]Employee plus Child(ren) [/FONT][/FONT]

$249.50​

​

$174.50​

​

$359.00​

​

$447.50​

​

$542.00​

​

[FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]Employee plus Family [/FONT][/FONT]

$299.50​

​

$229.50​

​

$545.50​

​

$748.00​

​

$822.00​

​

This is per pay check. Not per month.

 

[Flyin2low]

So it's $1644 per month for the Premium PPO plan

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

So it's $1644 per month for the Premium PPO plan

Yes !

Doesn't include dental, vision, life, or any other insurance

 

[Raoul Duke]

There are lots of companies that only make insurance available to the employee - particularly now that Obamacare has saved everyone. Expect to see this become the norm - Company offers insurance to the employee only and spouse and kids buy on the individual market. I would do the same if I was making the decisions.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

So it's $1644 per month for the Premium PPO plan

That pretty much has to be the entire take home pay for new Mesa first officers, doesn't it? What are they supposed to use to pay for food and shelter?

 

[jonjuan]

That pretty much has to be the entire take home pay for new Mesa first officers, doesn't it? What are they supposed to use to pay for food and shelter?

Sure, but they don't have to pay any taxes.

 

[ifly4u]

Okay so which is it per month or paycheck? One of you is not telling the truth.