"Walk of Shame"

[Britpilot]

co-workers

The word should be colleagues. "Co-worker" should be left to the description of bees.

 

[A-Track]

Indecent exposure and public urination are also criminal offenses.

 

[vectorvictor]

Taking a piss in the cockpit is no different than someone getting up from his desk at work and pissing into his coffee mug in front of his co-workers because he is too lazy to walk to the men's room.

Even construction workers have port-a-potties to use even though they work outside.

Some of you wonder why you get treated and paid the way you do...

I disagree. For the FO to pee in the cockpit you are right. Unless you are scared the captain is too reckless to be left alone or it is a really critical stage of flight (the flare) by all means you the lou. For the captain it is a bit different. She or he is responsible for your actions when they are in or out of the cockpit. No offense but there aren't many 400 hour 22 year olds I would lend my car to, nevermind a plane with a bunch of lives on. The captain is perfectly justified to do whatever is necessary to bring a safe outcome to that flight, including taking a leak in YOUR water bottle if necessary. End of story, book closed, PERIOD!

 

[Quack]

Are you refering to the BGM based Penn 1900 CA from years ago who is still there or is this a pure PDT guy your talking about? pre or post merger?

Pre merger but i believe he was outta the berry...all i know is he squated right over that step and let it rip!

 

[Quack]

I heard it was a health related issue. If the guy was really sick ,I think you could cut him some slack.

Yeah i think he had that irritable bowl syndrome...i'm not lacing into the guy, i just thought it was funny.

 

[Aerosurfer]

Just 'find' some turbulence while he's going.... then he has to explain why his side of the flight deck needs haz-mat. And you get to laugh at him while he pisses all over himself!! Problem Solved.... everybody wins!!

 

[FirstMate]

I disagree. For the FO to pee in the cockpit you are right. Unless you are scared the captain is too reckless to be left alone or it is a really critical stage of flight (the flare) by all means you the lou. For the captain it is a bit different. She or he is responsible for your actions when they are in or out of the cockpit. No offense but there aren't many 400 hour 22 year olds I would lend my car to, nevermind a plane with a bunch of lives on. The captain is perfectly justified to do whatever is necessary to bring a safe outcome to that flight, including taking a leak in YOUR water bottle if necessary. End of story, book closed, PERIOD!

I think you misinterpreted the jest of my post. Urinating in the cockpit is uncouth, lazy, and just plain gross especially if there is a working lav on the plane.

Don't play this almighty 'I'm captain and I will pee in your water bottle if I deem necessary crap'. Save it...

If it happened during a critical phase, then MAYBE I can buy the fact that you gotta do what you gotta do...be it pissing in a bottle.

And no offense taken - I'm neither a 22 year old nor a 400 hr wonder. There is a 20,000 hr captain I work with whom I will never step foot in car with again because he displays 'piss-poor' driving habits. Pun intended.

 

[OUPilot01]

What about if you have a ground stop for 2 hours and you dont want to lose place in line if you get cleared to taxi with only the fo in the front

 

[John Pennekamp]

Look y'all I'm not defending pee boy. That's a stupid thing to do. But what's even dumber is for little FO to get his panties in a wad and run to the chief pilot to write him up. You don't just write people up. It solves nothing. Is that worth getting a man fired over? Is that worth punishing his family over? Report is to pro standards and let the union deal with him. Don't be a management rat.

Lance Uppercut: go wax your legs, gel your spiky hair, and get me a cup of coffee. If I need to hear anything from you, I'll ask you, otherwise sit there and don't touch anything.

 

[FDJ2]

I disagree. For the FO to pee in the cockpit you are right. Unless you are scared the captain is too reckless to be left alone or it is a really critical stage of flight (the flare) by all means you the lou. For the captain it is a bit different. She or he is responsible for your actions when they are in or out of the cockpit. No offense but there aren't many 400 hour 22 year olds I would lend my car to, nevermind a plane with a bunch of lives on. The captain is perfectly justified to do whatever is necessary to bring a safe outcome to that flight, including taking a leak in YOUR water bottle if necessary. End of story, book closed, PERIOD!

If the captain has such little confidence in his first officer that he feels compelled to urinate in a cockpit instead of using a working lavatory, fearing that safety of flight would be compromised if he left the cockpit for a few minutes, then that captain ought to have refused to take off in the first place.

Their is no excuse for urinating in a cockpit when a working lavatory is available. I can not believe that there is even a debate on this subject.

 

[vortilon-x]

Agree

If the captain has such little confidence in his first officer that he feels compelled to urinate in a cockpit instead of using a working lavatory, fearing that safety of flight would be compromised if he left the cockpit for a few minutes, then that captain ought to have refused to take off in the first place.

I fully agree to this one. But writing him up doesn't solve anything either.

 

[PCL_128]

Their is no excuse for urinating in a cockpit when a working lavatory is available. I can not believe that there is even a debate on this subject.

I agree. But you aren't suggesting that writing the Captain up is the correct course of action, are you?

 

[skyslug]

Geez, just pee before they board and "squeeze what ever's in you, out of you"! That should give you a good 4 hours or so (your bladder size may vary depending upon type of liquid consumed and quantity). The "breaking the seal" thing is a myth!

But if you really have to make the "walk of shame" then do it with style and flair! Make every moment count: Chat with the passengers, sit down with the ones that you're attracted to and get to know them a bit better, make some coffee or read the USA Today!

I can't believe I just read most of this thread...

:0 I gotta pee!

 

[Future Furlough]

But if you really have to make the "walk of shame" then do it with style and flair! Make every moment count: Chat with the passengers, sit down with the ones that you're attracted to and get to know them a bit better, make some coffee or read the USA Today!

Made the walk of shame once with my wife sitting in back. Got a nice smooch out of the deal. Told the other passengers that it was a new service we were providing.

 

[FDJ2]

I agree. But you aren't suggesting that writing the Captain up is the correct course of action, are you?

No, not at all. I would tell the captain that his urinating in the cockpit is unacceptable and that if he did it again I'd get off the trip on the next stop and immediately report him to professional standards. End of discussion.

This type of behavior is unacceptable, unprofessional, unhealthy and indefensible. No one should be subjected to that type of work environment.

Part of being a professional pilot is not allowing yourself to be bullied by either management or another crewmember.

 

[PCL_128]

No, not at all. I would tell the captain that his urinating in the cockpit is unacceptable and that if he did it again I'd get off the trip on the next stop and immediately report him to professional standards. End of discussion.

This type of behavior is unacceptable, unprofessional, unhealthy and indefensible. No one should be subjected to that type of work environment.

Part of being a professional pilot is not allowing yourself to be bullied by either management or another crewmember.

Agree 100%. Good post.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

You talking about Gerald?

:laugh:

 

[aussiefly]

If its a female FO or CAPt she could use the Lady J Adapter from sportys lol

http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?&did=19&product_id=298

 

[Thug Life]

I have had three different FO's at ASA tell me they have had a CA pee in a H2O bottle instead of using the LAV in flight. I told each of them they should write that CA up. You have LAV on board. It's not a Be 1900. Has anyone else experienced this? That type of behavior should not be accepted! "Shame" on them.

I think everyone is missing the big picture. It's all about cockpit security. That al qaeda tool in 3a is looking for any chance to rush up there. Use a big bottle and wipe your hands off.

 

[CA1900]

I think everyone is missing the big picture. It's all about cockpit security. That al qaeda tool in 3a is looking for any chance to rush up there. Use a big bottle and wipe your hands off.

Ridiculous.

If the airlines or FAA believe it's that big of a threat, they'd mandate a separate lav for the cockpit crew. (El Al does this; it'd be a neat trick on an RJ.) Unless and until that happens, the door's coming open when nature calls.

Whizzing into a bottle on a plane with a lav? Have some dignity, man!