VX Rolls Out Water-Bottle Refill Stations

[Fubijaakr]

Think it over, wavey. USAir pilots could have a much larger rate IF they would just accept the arbitrator's agreement and move on. However, they're willing to pee away a ton of personal cash for their DoH dream.

And, remember, it was all because of a non-Union carrier's low rates that the legacy pilots got screwed in bankruptcy court in the first place.

So don't compare apples to oranges, slick.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Actually writing off depreciation and showing losses is what a lot of new companies do prior to showing big profits. It allows them to really turn and burn a big push to an IPO. That's what I have been told by a few different CPA's, so, we will see. It would definitely prevent the IPO from falling flat on its face a la Spirit?

If VX is getting IPOed it is because Branson wants out of the game, and they are looking to take their money and run. The Hedge Fund at NKS was doing the same thing. This way it allows them the ability to insulate themselves when the walls coming down.

Branson is shopping hard for a buyer if VA. He has been interested in trying VX to the deal. A IPO would be a clear indication that he realizes that he can not package them together.

 

[DASHDRIVER]

Actually, the intent was to go public at VX from day one. In fact they they wanted to do it sooner. But high oil prices and the '08 slowdown has delayed that. New estimates are putting IPO in two to three years.

 

[Tomct]

If VX is getting IPOed it is because Branson wants out of the game, and they are looking to take their money and run. The Hedge Fund at NKS was doing the same thing. This way it allows them the ability to insulate themselves when the walls coming down.

Branson is shopping hard for a buyer if VA. He has been interested in trying VX to the deal. A IPO would be a clear indication that he realizes that he can not package them together.

The only reason that he is shopping VA (Atlantic) is because he is trying to get Singapore to sell their 49% in the company. They are killing his other airlines with their "Anti-Pacific" rules. He has already said that he will always keep the controlling interest in the company. The IPO stuff is just the game they play, he has no desire to sell and if the original investors want out (which they do not) there are plenty standing in the wings to take their place. It's all good meng. ;-)

 

[weasel_lips]

Yes, they are just begging for their turn to throw millions into the money pit!

 

[waveflyer]

Think it over, wavey. USAir pilots could have a much larger rate IF they would just accept the arbitrator's agreement and move on. However, they're willing to pee away a ton of personal cash for their DoH dream.

And, remember, it was all because of a non-Union carrier's low rates that the legacy pilots got screwed in bankruptcy court in the first place.

So don't compare apples to oranges, slick.

Which non union carrier is that? JBlu?
That sounds a lot like excuses- outsourcing didn't start under the banner of BK- that just accelerated it to it's limit.
In case you didn't know- we live in a capitalistic country- and VA is free to pay whatever they want - and their pilots are free to negotiate however they want and accept whatever pay they want.
What I'm saying is that there are a glutton of pilots with thousands of hours of jet/glass/fms/PIC time for whom VA and Jblu before is a legitimate step up bc of the outsourcing major airline pilots allow.
Legacy pilots have to look in the mirror on this one.
Funny though how insecure and angry legacy guys get when faced with competition, while swa just smiles and says bring it on.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Of course outsourcing is the problem. And if we had a time machine perhaps we could fix it. The problem today is the number of young pilots whose entitlement mentality coupled a lack of backbone has created a labor pool that VX can exploit.

And those who accept employment with the VXs of the world are an anchor around the neck of the profession. You're lucky (so far) to be insulated from the problem at SWA.

 

[relief tube]

Move this crap over to the regional section.

Sounds a lot like a water fountain... How innovative!

Yup, either a LCC thread or a "Airline that pays their labor absolute crap" section.

Water Fountains have been around for centuries. Nothing to see here. Move along.

 

[Tomct]

Which non union carrier is that? JBlu?
That sounds a lot like excuses- outsourcing didn't start under the banner of BK- that just accelerated it to it's limit.
In case you didn't know- we live in a capitalistic country- and VA is free to pay whatever they want - and their pilots are free to negotiate however they want and accept whatever pay they want.
What I'm saying is that there are a glutton of pilots with thousands of hours of jet/glass/fms/PIC time for whom VA and Jblu before is a legitimate step up bc of the outsourcing major airline pilots allow.
Legacy pilots have to look in the mirror on this one.
Funny though how insecure and angry legacy guys get when faced with competition, while swa just smiles and says bring it on.

Wave, you will talk until you are blue in the face....FUBI doesn't want to look in the mirror, otherwise he would see that he is just a normal guy doing the same job we all are and not some "Captain America" saving the industry. Unfortunately or fortunately, ALPA is in big trouble with this TWA deal and look at all the Legacies that are now thinking about going with their own unions. I think it is quite funny myself, I would LOVE to see ALPA implode. They have become just a business and could care less about their card carrying members.

 

[Sir Innocenti]

I would LOVE to see ALPA implode. They have become just a business and could care less about their card carrying members.

No truer words have been spoken. They have lost their focus on who and what is important. Im all for a union, so long as the union managing members dont have their pockets lined with airline managements cash.....or are seen golfing with airline management. True story.

 

[Downwind]

and could care less about their card carrying members.

Couldn't care less. Again, it is "couldn't care less".



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[Tomct]

Couldn't care less. Again, it is "couldn't care less".


Sorry Down, I was typing and doing multiple things. But hey, I Couldn't CARE LESS!! Hows that?