VLJ Chief pilot pay

[Flybet3]

The question I have is this: What kind of ministry employs a pilot that curses and uses vulgar pop culture taglines to represent himself to the world on a website such as this?

Jesus said, "O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? forout of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh."

Did I say I was going to go preach? or minister people? so all the sudden you know me? The fact is I asked about salaries and I get bull about ministries having jets and how wrong it looks. I tell you what, you can kiss my a$$ too, if you have no input to the original question I asked and all you give me is crap. Then you are an A$$HOLE. Oh I am sorry BUTHOLE. Oh no, wait...poo poo face. Is that better for ya?

 

[IHateMgmt]

can someone send that salary info to me as well? About to co captain a Citation 500 or 550. Not sure which they are buying. Thanks

Get it for yourself. Here's a link...

http://www.propilotmag.com/Permanent/issrep.html

You want the June 2006 edition. They didn't charge me a dime.

-IHM

 

[PAA744]

Oh boy... here we go!!!

WOW, Talk about some very "unscriptual" use of the Word.

1) The "tithe" is an old testiment requirement - given unto the Levites (ie not todays "ministers") If you want to GIVE - Give onto God (and others) in a joyful way - NEVER as a requirement - AND it's definately not a % (read percentage) of your income.... this is called an OFFERING - and it's holy.

2) Out of the aboundance of the Heart the Mouth speaks.... I'll leave it at that.

3) "Church" is where 2 or more are gathered in "His Name" it's NEVER a building that we go to... However, we should not forsake the gathering of the assembly - ie we all come together in fellowship - and this is holy.

Sorry to be soo harsh - but we all have been subjected to some very bad teaching concerning the bible - we all need to be bereans...

 

[Flybet3]

WOW, Talk about some very "unscriptual" use of the Word.

1) The "tithe" is an old testiment requirement - given unto the Levites (ie not todays "ministers") If you want to GIVE - Give onto God (and others) in a joyful way - NEVER as a requirement - AND it's definately not a % (read percentage) of your income.... this is called an OFFERING - and it's holy.

2) Out of the aboundance of the Heart the Mouth speaks.... I'll leave it at that.

3) "Church" is where 2 or more are gathered in "His Name" it's NEVER a building that we go to... However, we should not forsake the gathering of the assembly - ie we all come together in fellowship - and this is holy.

Sorry to be soo harsh - but we all have been subjected to some very bad teaching concerning the bible - we all need to be bereans...

Thanks for the teaching...so 60K sounds good for ya?

 

[paulsalem]

1) The "tithe" is an old testiment requirement - given unto the Levites (ie not todays "ministers") If you want to GIVE - Give onto God (and others) in a joyful way - NEVER as a requirement - AND it's definately not a % (read percentage) of your income.... this is called an OFFERING - and it's holy.

Well then the Ten Commandments were old testiment laws given unto the Israelites (not today's people).

I always give a tithe (which by definition is 10%). An offering is anything above 10%.

I have no problem giving back to God what he gave me in the first place. And what he'll turn around and give it right back to me.

Wheather you think its required or not, is between you and God. I belive its required.

 

[Flybet3]

Well then the Ten Commandments were old testiment laws given unto the Israelites (not today's people).

I always give a tithe (which by definition is 10%). An offering is anything above 10%.

I have no problem giving back to God what he gave me in the first place. And what he'll turn around and give it right back to me.

Wheather you think its required or not, is between you and God. I belive its required.

Well said. Alot of people get rapped around numbers, do you really think God needs your money?!?!?! He doesnt care about the money, it's your intentions he cares about. You can give 90% but if you're doing it for all the wrong reasons, then it's just as bad as if you were stealing from him. Oh yeah, and tithing is mentioned in the new testament. Remember that couple in the book of Acts that dies b/c they decided to steal from their tithes and offerings. Back me up Paulsalem

 

[paulsalem]

The real question is why wouldn't you tithe or give offerings.

If I held a $100 bill in my hand and said, if you give me $10 I will give you $100, how many of you would take me up on my offer. Obviously everyone in here would, and rightfully so.

God is doing the same thing, so why not take him up on His offer?


Luke 6:38
Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

That's just one of many.

 

[PAA744]

consider this

The tithe is an Old testiment REQUIREMENT...

Factly the only time the "tithe" is used in the New testiment is in a rebuke against the Pharisees (see Mathew 23:23 and Luke 11:42)...

We all have been VERY POORLY tought - about this subject.

Firstly, the tithe (in the OLd testiment - it's one testiment to me) was a requirement for the Levites - in that the Levites were not given any land inheretance, as the other tribes were given. As such, the Levites were to care for the things of the tabernacle - and thus other tribes were REQUIRED to provide for the Levites with the tithe.

There is NO SUCH thing about the "tithe" in the New Testiment. The notion that we are to give 10% of this or 10% of that IS VERY BAD TEACHING - actually it is hypocracy to list the tithe as a requirement concerning the New Testiment. It is all God's 100% (net, gross, profit, prophet, whatever)

In the New testiment - Jesus came to FULFILL the law - not do away with the law... In the Old testiment there were 10 commandment, in the New testiment there are 2 - Love God, Love your neighbor - it really is that SIMPLE.

My concern is when I see the Word of God presented in an incorrect manner - Sorry to hijack this thread.

 

[AerroMatt]

Flybet,

Good luck to you on your endeavor. I hope it works out.

Nevermind all the flamers, they're just jerking your chain. Bottom line is you can provide a service (travel) which is required by these ministries. A preacher's time is just as valuable as a businessman's, and we are in the time business when all is said and done.

My employer donates use of my flight dept to several ministries, and I thoroughly enjoy taking the ministers and their guests/family wherever they are going! It is a refreshing break from the hassles of my usual trips. I am often invited to attend their retreats, and I have met many wonderful people at them.

That aside, I think it never hurts to be on the good side of a man who's closer to god than I am. When my time comes, I'll appreciate an advocate for me at the gates. Hehe.

 

[G100driver]

When it comes to tithing here is what I always do.

I take 20% of my annual income throw it up in the air, and whatever god can catch, he can keep, no questions asked.

 

[G100driver]

Flybet,


My employer donates use of my flight dept to several ministries, and I thoroughly enjoy taking the ministers and their guests/family wherever they are going! It is a refreshing break from the hassles of my usual trips. I am often invited to attend their retreats, and I have met many wonderful people at them.

Your employer sounds like a class act. Serioulsy.

 

[Flybet3]

Flybet,

Good luck to you on your endeavor. I hope it works out.

Nevermind all the flamers, they're just jerking your chain. Bottom line is you can provide a service (travel) which is required by these ministries. A preacher's time is just as valuable as a businessman's, and we are in the time business when all is said and done.

My employer donates use of my flight dept to several ministries, and I thoroughly enjoy taking the ministers and their guests/family wherever they are going! It is a refreshing break from the hassles of my usual trips. I am often invited to attend their retreats, and I have met many wonderful people at them.

That aside, I think it never hurts to be on the good side of a man who's closer to god than I am. When my time comes, I'll appreciate an advocate for me at the gates. Hehe.

Thank you very much, your words are very wise and true. I know the pastor of who I might fly for, I know him very well. The guy is out there doing something good, not only him but his whole family. I can see my self working for the guy and his ministrie. There's alot I could learn from the guy, and like you said...we're going to need and advocate hehehe.

 

[Flybet3]

When it comes to tithing here is what I always do.

I take 20% of my annual income throw it up in the air, and whatever god can catch, he can keep, no questions asked.

be gone children of the corn...

 

[Flybet3]

Your employer sounds like a class act. Serioulsy.

You really think you're hot stuff don't ya?

doosh

 

[G100driver]

You really think you're hot stuff don't ya?

yep ... sucker!

 

[Flybet3]

yep ... sucker!

Oooooh yeah...

bite my shiny metal ass!

 

[G100driver]

I am sorry that you are so thin skinned.

At the end of the day it is all about what you feel comfortable with. I would just have a hard time with a guy who taking money from little old ladies who are thinking that they are giving it to god when in reality pastor Billy Bob is using it to purchase a jet. But hey that is just me. No need to respond to that either. No matter what Bible verse you use, your boss is still full of $hit and I do not even know him.

People who take vows to serve have no business owing their own jets. I would be more impressed if he took the money and fed the poor or provide housing for those that cannot afford it. Ya, know that other good organization, Habitat for Humanity.

AeroMatt's boss is a class act. He is giving back to the community that made him what he is. Not using the bible to make money off people's fears.

Good luck with the VLJ ....

PS next do not give out so much info on this board. Keep a-holes like me from shooting you up full o' holes.

 

[Flybet3]

People who take vows to serve have no business owing their own jets. I would be more impressed if he took the money and fed the poor or provide housing for those that cannot afford it. Ya, know that other good organization, Habitat for Humanity.

AeroMatt's boss is a class act. He is giving back to the community that made him what he is. Not using the bible to make money off people's fears.

Good luck with the VLJ ....

PS next do not give out so much info on this board. Keep a-holes like me from shooting you up full o' holes.

Well sounds like you had some kind of preist feel you up or something. Secondly my friend, you are generelizing...what makes you think he doesn't take care of many many people? I know by personal experience of how this guy has given up 2 months salary to help others (no lie) I agree with you in the fact that there are some "ministers" that make a business out of religion or sell their "holy water" for $19.99. But the point is, those people will have their day. Also, you keep point out as if the Pastor is going to get a jet to go back and forth to his beach house, or playboy mansion. I said this is for the minsitrie, which includes many churches in the U.S, Mexico and Latin America. These are ministries that are helping people find work, building schools, helping single moms. How do I know this? b/c I've been in the accounting department, and I have seen where Tithes and offerings go.
Oh yeah, Old lady? you're like the media, trying to make things seem as ugly and dramatic as possible.

Also, yeah you can be an a$$hole behind a computer my friend, I wouldnt recommend it face to face. You're probably one of those guys that talks trash, gets his ass kicked and then sues like a chicken s**t.

Thanks for the wishes, let's get together and have a beer. i'm sure we'll have a good laugh, hit on a old lady or two. And ask them how much money they have

 

[G100driver]

Thanks for the wishes, let's get together and have a beer. i'm sure we'll have a good laugh, hit on a old lady or two. And ask them how much money they have

Sure thing. If you ever end up in the heathan part of the country I would be gald to purchase you a beer. :beer:

 

[PAA744]

count me In

I'll join in that beer - but only 2 for me....