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minitour said:
Someone just got busted on a Commercial oral today because he didn'tknow what vision purple was. I've never even heard of it. Any takers?

-mini
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My take; F- that examiner. Go to an other who deals with real flying situations.
 
Sounds like a real a$$hole. Why do people just go with any ole examiner? I got the scoop on a few of them. The path of least resistance is the way to go if you don't want that pink slip.
 
The current PTS has dropped this Task. Must be part of the ongoing national effort to dumb everything down.
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Excellent point, I couldn't agree more. It never seems to amaze me when I read these posts pertaining to a difficult, hard, and intense examiners actually testing the applicant's ability and knowledge. This whole bit of shopping around, finding the easy DE's, etc, is complete BS, take a little bit of pride in being pushed a little, challenged, and actually "earning" the tickets versus having them handed to you for X amount of dollars. A little hard work and extra effort on your behalf isn't going to kill you, if anything it should make you have that much more pride in yourself and in your accomplishments. A strong hard work mentality will go a long ways not just in this industry but in life in general. Easy isn't always better, I would never consider using a de due to how "easy" that person may or may not be. If you know your stuff then you should be able to pass the ride with any of them.
 
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350DRIVER said:
...A little hard work and extra effort on your behalfisn't going to kill you, if anything it should make you have that muchmore pride in yourself and in your accomplishments. A strong hard workmentality will go a long ways not just in this industry but in life ingeneral. Easy isn't always better, I would never consider using a dedue to how "easy" that person may or may not be. If you know your stuffthen you should be able to pass the ride with any of them.
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While true and a great point, how are we supposed to pass any check ride if they start testing us on stuff not in the PTS?

Imagine a PPL-ASE applicant being tested on Multi- Engine OEIInstrument Approaches? It isn't in the PTS, but with a littlehard work, they can actually be fun and if you just think about theaerodynamics and how the approaches work they are not all that hard(depending on what you're flying OEI of course).

Anywho, just curious to find out what "Visual Purple" is...all I knowis what matt said, so I guess (if I get asked) I'll just have to spitthat out.

Hopefully (for me at least) ASquared is right and it was more of a"Scenario 2" thing than anything. If that's the case then thisquestion and a few others he was asked won't even come up. I havesome confidence left that what I think I know, I actually know and it's also what the examiner is looking for.

*sigh* Such is the 141 Check Airman's perogative, I guess, to work his own agenda into the oral...oh well.

Thanks for the help all, and 350 and bobby (who didn't really say it,but I kinda think he alluded to it) are right, a little hard work tofind out some things that aren't necessarily in the Pilots Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge definitely won't hurt me...and look at all the cool sh*t I can tell students now! :D

Thanks again for the help

-mini
 
bobbysamd said:
An examiner has a perfect right to ask questions about night flight, including its aeromedical factors. Asking about visual purple is on the order of asking about rods and cones. One should know these things...

PPS-Bafanguy's comments about visual purple are part of the answer to the question.
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bobby,

I suppose it's hard to argue against more knowledge, but I can only ask what does one DO with such information as this ? And, since one can't really control it, why would an examiner think it's fair game on an oral when there are literally volumes of information he could ask that would tell him more about the applicant's level of "useful" knowledge ?

Just because these examiners have all this God-like power over applicants doesn't mean they use that power wisely or appropriately.
 
No DE will pass a complete idiot, I know that.

I will put it to you like this. We have 1 DE in our area who is a b!tch. So I decided to fly 30 min away. Not having to worry about the DE's "mood" was refreshing. Just got a real world check ride from a Lear Captain. The check ride was worth the money.

Shop around, study, and make sure you pass. 350, I too am proud, because god gave me the brains to shop around. Does your certificate say SEL/with hard fu#king check ride. After all who wants to explain a BUSTED CHECKRIDE at the interview....I sure don't.
 
qmaster3 said:
...who wants to explain a BUSTED CHECKRIDE at the interview....I sure don't.
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I guess I agree with that, although I have heard of many with bustedcheckrides that are flying for airlines right now. One guyactually (used to instruct here) had three busts and four gear ups andis flying for a "major" so it isn't like that's the kiss of death.

I just don't want to have to explain:
"So what did you learn when you busted?"
"Well, I learned what Visual Purple is..."
"uh huh....and?"
"and it's this stuff in your eye......."

I wouldn't even be able to imagine the looks on their faces.

-mini
 
Mini,

LMAO.....Hope we're flying together someday.
 
qmaster3 said:
Sounds like a real a$$hole. Why do people just go with any ole examiner? I got the scoop on a few of them. The path of least resistance is the way to go if you don't want that pink slip.
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Excellent advice. Path of least resistance. A rating is a rating is a rating. Does not matter who you got it from. No reason to torture yourself like that.
 
Steveair said:
I've been asked this question a lot.... don't blow it off / mattpilot has the best explanation.
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Yep, seems like his response was exactly what webmd and a few books from the library had to say...

Thanks again! :)

-mini
 
mattpilot said:
I charge per hour. Thats $10 please.

Soon i'll upgrade to CFI pay, which is $12 an hour. yaaay!
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Hey where are you gonna be working? I gotta get me some of that action!
 

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