Virgin America Launches New Service to Dallas-Fort Worth

[johnsonrod]

The AA product is tired and weathered... Those MD80s are seriously old and dilapidated. The VA product is FAR better. That said, it will be difficult to crack AA O&D passengers living in the DFW area given the loyalty programs and corporate contracts. I am guessing that SFO/LAX-based pax will comprise most of the pax on each flight.

 

[hyflyin]

The AA product is tired and weathered... Those MD80s are seriously old and dilapidated. The VA product is FAR better. That said, it will be difficult to crack AA O&D passengers living in the DFW area given the loyalty programs and corporate contracts. I am guessing that SFO/LAX-based pax will comprise most of the pax on each flight.

80's in sfo will be gone by Nov (ish) per AA guys, replaced with 73's.

I am not sure why VA is bothering to make a big deal of this. We can't even remotely compete with AA, not sure why we don't just move in quietly and enjoy the revenue.

Maybe AA will code share with us, similar to the Jblu deal in the NE, we can do all the DFW-SFO/LAX flying for them.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Maybe AA will code share with us, similar to the Jblu deal in the NE, we can do all the DFW-SFO/LAX flying for them.

Are you an Effing Idiot?? Yeah, If I was at AA, I'd love to just hand over all of my flying to you clowns........via some BS codeshare!!!

There's scope Skippy, for Jackhole ideas like yours!!!

 

[hyflyin]

Are you an Effing Idiot?? Yeah, If I was at AA, I'd love to just hand over all of my flying to you clowns........via some BS codeshare!!!

There's scope Skippy, for Jackhole ideas like yours!!!

LOL!! Scope didn't seem to work real well when AA handed over the BOS-SFO, routes to Jblu, did it numb nuts??? My point it that VA is no threat to a company that owns 85% of the market in DFW. Competition is needed in DFW.

As for you, are you trying to compensate for something? Guys like you, with avatars like that, usually have small mans disease or your a homosexual trying to fit in. I say just be yourself Bill. Its ok, we will accept you for who you are. Peace out brother or sister, whatever you choose.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Competition is needed?? Why so you can still undercut the industry with your pathetic wages and work rules all in the name of the consumer.....spare me the lecture. You think the AA pilots want to just let you "help out"?? You are kidding me....please tell your stories of assistance on their jumpseat if you had a pair between your legs.....

Nobody brought your sexual orientation up SFO queen.....I know my avatar offends you with the outwardly hetero sex.......

 

[LoveGun]

Hyflyin,

I'm on your side, but don't knock his killer avatar. The Bill Lumberg sex scene is probably the funniest scene in cinema history.

 

[hyflyin]

Competition is needed?? Why so you can still undercut the industry with your pathetic wages and work rules all in the name of the consumer.....spare me the lecture. You think the AA pilots want to just let you "help out"?? You are kidding me....please tell your stories of assistance on their jumpseat if you had a pair between your legs.....

Nobody brought your sexual orientation up SFO queen.....I know my avatar offends you with the outwardly hetero sex.......

My wages are going up yearly (now), save your non-snese for the morons who gave it all back years ago. When is the last time you stood any ground? I rode one company in the dirt buy not giving up a thing (paid Alpo for 10 yrs), and furloughed by another for the same reason. Being the type of individual you are, I doubt you have ever taken a stand for anything and chastising on a public board doesn't count, no personal loss involved.

Live with the competition jack*ss, I no problem putting fools like you back on the street where you belong. Unfortunately, innocent people get hurt by it, but its not personal, just business. And since I am pro business, because they provide plenty for my family, I have no problem with competition.

Kisses big boy!!! LOL

 

[Z_Pilot]

Live with the competition jack*ss, I no problem putting fools like you back on the street where you belong. Unfortunately, innocent people get hurt by it, but its not personal, just business. And since I am pro business, because they provide plenty for my family, I have no problem with competition.

Kisses big boy!!! LOL

Wow, they sure hire class act folks there at VA.

 

[hyflyin]

Wow, they sure hire class act folks there at VA.

Yeah and at: AA, Delta, SWA, Jblu, Airtran, fill in the blank.... save the judgement. Please feel free to never ride our jump seat either.

If you have ever worked at a regional or something that paid as little, look in the mirror. I did not and its cost me much "falling on my sword" for higher pay, "holding the bar". I am not asking for your sympathy either, it was my decision, my actions, my misfortune. But I have job I love now that is working for me. Unfortunately, your belief that we are some how in this together is misguided, we are not, as many before me have proven. So I will not be falling anymore on the proverbial sword. Sorry, thats life and the only people I need to support now are my co-workers. If we decide as a group to seek something we will do it. Worry about your own companies and we will worry about ours.

Cheers, I'm out of this convo. Trying to solve the problems of the industry on an anonymous web board is lame. I stated my .02 and thats all that matters. Good luck with your careers.

 

[Full of LUV]

My wages are going up yearly (now), save your non-snese for the morons who gave it all back years ago. When is the last time you stood any ground? I rode one company in the dirt buy not giving up a thing (paid Alpo for 10 yrs), and furloughed by another for the same reason. Being the type of individual you are, I doubt you have ever taken a stand for anything and chastising on a public board doesn't count, no personal loss involved.

Live with the competition jack*ss, I no problem putting fools like you back on the street where you belong. Unfortunately, innocent people get hurt by it, but its not personal, just business. And since I am pro business, because they provide plenty for my family, I have no problem with competition.

Kisses big boy!!! LOL

Like VA could even run their operation if it weren't for the access to a union jumpseat both in front and back of the plane courtesy of UAL and AA... I bet you jump on them every day you go to work.....

 

[Full of LUV]

Yeah and at: AA, Delta, SWA, Jblu, Airtran, fill in the blank.... save the judgement. Please feel free to never ride our jump seat either.

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Like VA could even run their operation if it weren't for the access to a union jumpseat both in front and back of the plane courtesy of UAL and AA... I bet you jump on them every day you go to work.....

 

[pilotpm]

Like VA could even run their operation if it weren't for the access to a union jumpseat both in front and back of the plane courtesy of UAL and AA... I bet you jump on them every day you go to work.....

I'm sure the 3 UAL jumpers I saw on the flight from SEA to SFO on Sunday are loving you propagating a jumpseat war. We carry a bunch of OAL jumpers. And, yes we ride on their seats as well. You see that's how it works. why don't you just let the head shed biggies pull the strategy stuff.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Jumpseats aren't a political pawn when needing a ride.....everybody gets to ride, we are just screwing ourselves.

My challenge to the VA toolbag was to see if his nutsack was screwed on tight enough to bring up his spewed out "how about AA letting us fly....." BS ON an AA Jumpseat.....probably not gonna happen!

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Hyflyin,

I'm on your side, but don't knock his killer avatar. The Bill Lumberg sex scene is probably the funniest scene in cinema history.

Thanks!!

And if you aren't doing her "man" style....then you aint a man!!!

 

[Speedtape]

Delta will be getting in on the action, too! Anybody remember Airtran's assault on AA with their short lived DFW to the West Coast a few years ago?