Vietnam Airlines A320 contracts

[Say Again Over]

The 10% pay cut was part of the then Chief Pilot's plan to better the conditions for VN nationals, at a year end party in 2008, he announced that he would double the VN salaries and reduce the expat salaries.

He pretty much made good on his promise, increasing VN salaries and deducting a previously received 2% increase given to expats for a six month period, on top of that he announced that all NEW crews would start at 10% less pay for the first year, pay then goes to the normal level, this has not changed.

All crews are initially hired on the 6/2 scheme and later you can request something else. Don't think the 10% reduction had anything to do with any start up since they didn't exist at that time, also I'm not really sure Air Mekong has any effect on the contract industry since they are not contractors.

Real contractors generally have no fall back plan, they are out there on their own, not the case with Air Mekong.

Cheers, SAO

 

[d.fitz]

I'm not surprised one bit that they are trying to pull that ridiculous stunt after the "Air Mekscum" pilots demonstrated that there are pilots in the US willing to undercut the market by an outstanding 40% !!!!! uke:

You know the post you are commenting on is over two years old right??

 

[Dumb Pilot]

You guys are dreaming if you don't think that "Air Mekscum" casts a very negative trend, let me know what you think when you see them flying the same A320 you are flying for 40% less of the going rate and then tell me how is not going to affect you

 

[Say Again Over]

Dumb, not sure why you feel this way, the pay they are on now isn't even that low, so if they start operating the A320, I really doubt they would be any where near your estimate, I believe new captains at Vietnam Airlines start at 10.6 / mos for the first year.

And again, they are not contractors.

 

[Shrek]

Dumb, not sure why you feel this way, the pay they are on now isn't even that low, so if they start operating the A320, I really doubt they would be any where near your estimate, I believe new captains at Vietnam Airlines start at 10.6 / mos for the first year.

And again, they are not contractors.

They aren't contractors? Locals are the only ones that are NOT contractors.....and CPTs earn 3K a month so where do you get such "accurate information"?!

The contractors also get payed at a reduced rate the first year due to the precident set by Rishworth and DPI. (10% less).

 

[Say Again Over]

I thought they were ASA pilots? Anyway your other facts are wrong too, the pay decrease is straight from VNA, but what would I know...

 

[Shrek]

I thought they were ASA pilots? Anyway your other facts are wrong too, the pay decrease is straight from VNA, but what would I know...

I thought the thread was about A320 Vietnam Airline contracts - I assume you are talking about Air Mekong......

 

[Cpt Oveur]

Don't the Air Mekong pilots have a guaranteed job waiting for them back in the states when they finish their contract, with no loss of seniority? I think that's a huge value that isn't put on the price tag of their contract.

 

[Say Again Over]

To clear things up, yes this thread is about the Vietnam Airlines A320 contract, the good pay and nice place to live contract that is paying approximately $10.6K per month on the 6/2 schedule and goes up 10% after completion of the first year.

IMHO the Air Mekong drivers have NO impact on Vietnam Airlines expat salaries, Air Mekong pilots are not contractors, they are employed by ASA or Sky West?

 

[Cpt Oveur]

Pilots employed by Air Mekong are on a Leave of Absence from Atlantic Southeast Airlines. They continue to accrue seniority at Atlantic Southeast and have a job waiting for them whenever they return, in accordance with the CBA and LOAs.

 

[tyuwerty]

To clear things up, yes this thread is about the Vietnam Airlines A320 contract, the good pay and nice place to live contract that is paying approximately $10.6K per month on the 6/2 schedule and goes up 10% after completion of the first year.

IMHO the Air Mekong drivers have NO impact on Vietnam Airlines expat salaries, Air Mekong pilots are not contractors, they are employed by ASA or Sky West?

Anyone working for a lower than standard contract rate is putting downward pressure on all salaries.

10.6k per month is what 170/190 capts are earning (excluding housing, insurance, schooling), so that is low for an A320.

 

[Say Again Over]

10.6k per month is what 170/190 capts are earning (excluding housing, insurance, schooling), so that is low for an A320.

I think you may not have done your homework.

1. Do 170 pilots put all of their paycheck in the bank, I do.

2. Do 170 pilots receive 14 days of paid vacation every 42 days, we do.

3. Are all the 170 pilots based out of the city they live in, I am.

4. Each 14 days of vacation includes round trip tickets on the system (not to the states yet, but soon).

5. How much does a 170 pilot pay for dinner and drinks for two, is it less than $18.00, I think not.

6. My girlfriend is half my age! :beer:

If you choose not to take a vacation every six weeks, you make considerably more, I currently take home more than an AA 767 captain, cost of living is a fraction of what a 170 driver has to deal with, for example, my cable TV is $3.00 and a full time housekeeper is $100.00 per month, so you don't really need to be a rocket scientist to figure this one out, good luck.

 

[tyuwerty]

I was talking of contract work not domestic USA flying. Homework has been done, living the dream for real. Well almost a dream... well not quite a dream, but the paycheck and the travel opportunities make me happy.

1. Yes - Actually more that 10.6k, cash.

2. 40 days vacation per year, 12 days off per month, 10 emergency days per year, 60 sick per year (20 full pay, 20 half pay, 20 no pay).

3. Yes

4. Round trip, positive space, anywhere in the system once per month (USA included)

5. I am in Saudi - you got me there. Drinks are home made.

6. No shortage of 20 something Morrocans/Indians/Sri-Lankans/Philipinas/Turks/Eastern Europeans bouncing around.

Cable TV - Free
Housekeeper/cook/nanny - $250