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Not a problem, was just curious. the line that was posted, seems about the same as what we get with our lines, maybe a little worse actually.....
How was it worse?
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Not a problem, was just curious. the line that was posted, seems about the same as what we get with our lines, maybe a little worse actually.....
Charlie how many active line pilots do you have on the east and what is the current fleet count?
Ask your East FO peers if they want to operate separately or combine lists. We both know the majority over there are perfectly happy to operate separately, even insisting it would be "unsafe" to do otherwise. If they are so sure they will get the DOH staple, why isn't everyone chomping to merge the groups? Because it isn't going to happen with DOH.
Also, the company might not pass fuel savings on to us, but rest assured they won't bat an eye at taking things away if they start losing money. Three engine taxi and keep thinking the company is going to blink at the negotiating table.
I'm sorry if I come across as combative. It isn't my nature or my intent, but I'm getting tired of the endless gamesmanship that appears to be USAPA operating mode. As long as they keep pushing the "we're going to take what ever we think is ours from whoever we please (ME)", then I'll continue to think they can pretty much piss off.
Charlie how many active line pilots do you have on the east and what is the current fleet count?
It might be more efficient, but that is driven more by work rules than a bid preparation tool.It is more efficient than other line building tools which equates to needing less pilots. But since (unfortunately) we are going to be in litigation for a year or two (the companies suit) and in negotiations for a year or two maybe when we start retiring in large amounts maybe PBS won't be a furlough generator. Maybe it would just slow our hiring a bit. Remember USAPA MUST do everything it can to preserve jobs.
It might be more efficient, but that is driven more by work rules than a bid preparation tool.
Stop reacting in fear of the unknown.
USAPA is doing all it can to preserve EAST jobs. That's why they are in the litigation they are in.
Yes if there was any time to have a new thing that, according to USAPA, would result in fewer pilots would be during heavy attrition but that doesn't start for 18 months or so. I don't fear PBS and what I know about it has been through the postings on this board and I do want to learn more about it and will pass this to other eastinfections. That being said I have to rely on my elected reps to know about this kind of stuff and make decisions and if you read my earlier post with the NAC update, they believe that it would definitely mean furloughs.
this is from the july bid:
here is some info from the bid that just closed for July 2011.
total flying positions - 2660
total CA - 1231
total FO - 1429 (1377 filled)
open FO positions - 52
Breakdown [base:equipment - #ca/#fo]
CLT:767/757 - 61/92
CLT:A330 - 39/71
CLT:A319/320/321 - 363/358 and 14 open FO positions
CLT:737 - 150/150
DCA:A319/320/321 - 86/76 and 9 open FO positions
DCA:737 - 38/38 and 1 open FO position
PHL:767/757 - 103/145
PHL:A330 - 84/170
PHL:737 - 50/46
PHL:A319/320/321 - 179/172 and 5 open FO positions
PHL:E190 - 78/59 and 23 open FO positions
the fleet count is around 217 or 218 (202 boeing and airbus) and 15 e190's. The 190's do not count toward the min fleet. Min fleet on the east is something like 202 or 203 (boeing/airbus) which is about where we are now.